Sherif:
The hybrid ventilation control is mainly used to save
energy and prevent simultaneous natural ventilation and HVAC operation. The
IAQ control was not considered when the object was developed. We need to
reconsider a possible combination to let user make IAQ control. I will write
this one into a wish list. Do you have more suggestions?
The alternative way you mentioned is to make scheduled
maximum and minimum outdoor temperature, such as scheduled CSP. Does
this meet your needs for the time being?
Lixing
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] Hybrid
Ventilation Control
Hi,
Thank you Lixing, Richard, Linda and Fabio for your concern and
support
I've looked through the detailed report variables as
recommended
It was very helpful to understand more the performance of the system and
the control logic
Through different timesteps in an hour, the hybrid status is alternating
from 1 (allowing natural ventilation) to 2 (mechanical ventilation) according
to the cooling setpoint temperature (CSP) and the cooling demand. Once the air
temperature reached the CSP (27C), the mechanical cooling system is
operating in order to keep the air temperature just below the CSP
while the supplied fresh air exceeds the minimum requirements (no
problem).
My problem summarizes in that, after several
timesteps of HVAC operation, the hybrid status changes to 1 as the
outdoor temperature (30C) is between the min.& max. values (15-35C) while
natural ventilation is not permitted as the outdoor temperature is higher
than the indoor temperature (27C). At these moments, the airflow is
below the minimum ventilation rate. Accordingly, the hourly supplied
amount of fresh air (by both HVAC and Natural Ventilation) doesn't
match the minimum requirements which affect the Indoor Air Quality.
Since the ventilation rate due to natural ventilation is below the
minimum requirements at the critical moments, the system should
then switch to mechanical ventilation with minimum ventilation rate to
maintain acceptable Indoor Air Quality. Therefore, a combined control mode
will be helpful at these circumstances, am I right?
Another alternative could solve the problem by matching the maximum
outdoor temperature with the CSP but we can only specify just one max.
outdoor temp. for the whole year. In that case, Which value could be used when
we use different seasonal/monthly CSP (which is my situtation as well)?
I appreciate very much your help
Kind regards,
Sherif
From: Lixing Gu
<gu@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To:
EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 8:47:23
PM Subject: Re:
[EnergyPlus_Support] Hybrid Ventilation Control
Sherif:
I think Rich answers your question regarding the
hybrid status value between 1 and 2. I am trying to clarify the control
logic. When the control mode is temperature, the control will check whether
the outdoor temperature is between min and max temperature specified
in the inputs, such as 15 and 35C you mentioned. If it OK, the
control also check whether HVAC system is required to turn on or not, by
checking indoor temperature. For example, if the indoor temperature in the
controlled zone is above the cooling setpoint. HVAC system turns
on.
The control mode 4 is only working with the
AirflowNetwork model. If the infiltration by opening windows is above the
scheduled input. HVAC system turns off and windows are open, regardless of
other conditions.
Hope this helps.
Lixing
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 11:40
AM
Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_ Support]
Hybrid Ventilation Control
Lixing,
Thanks for your concern
The main concern is designing an acceptable indoor environment is to
maintain both Thermal Comfort and Indoor Air Quality requirements.
Concerning Indoor Air Quality requirements, a minimum ventilation rate
(10l/s/person= 1.29ACH) is required to maintain acceptable level of CO2
in an office space. A successful hybrid design should provide that
ventilation rate by natural ventilation and switch to mechanical ventilation
just when the minimum value couldn't be met.
At the same time, the zone operative temperature should lie within
the upper & lower thermal comfort boundaries. A successful hybrid design
should maintain natural ventilation as long as the zone
operative temperature is within the comfort boundaries,
once it reaches the upper comfort boundary temperature (cooling
setpoint temperature CSP), the system should switch to mechanical
cooling
In EnergyPlus, if I set the control mode to 1 (temperature) and the
min. and max. outdoor temp. to 15C and 35C as in the example file, when the
outdoor temp. reaches 32C and the indoor temp is 28C and the CSP
is 26C , in that case the mechanical system should operate and the
hybrid status should be equal to 2 but the hybrid status value is between 1
and 2. My explanation could be that since the outside lies between 15C and
35C, then hybrid control allows natural ventilation, and since the outdoor
temp is higher than the indoor temp, then natural ventilation is not
allowed.
Alternatively, if I set the control mode to 4 (Ventilation rate), the
system just compare the predicted ventilation rate with the minimum value
regardless to the cooling setpoint, therefore, during summer, the indoor
temperature exceeds the upper comfort boundary temperature but with
acceptable ventilation rate.
Could you please help me may be there is something I
miss-understood?
Kind regards,
Sherif
From: Lixing Gu
<gu@xxxxxxxx. edu> To: EnergyPlus_Support@ yahoogroups.
com Sent: Wednesday, May 6,
2009 2:24:48 PM Subject:
Re: [EnergyPlus_ Support] Hybrid Ventilation Control
Sherif:
The existing EnergyPlus only allows one of controls at
the same time. Any combination is not allowed. Could you provide your
control in detail, so that possible enhancement will be
considered?
Thanks.
Lixing
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 6:26
AM
Subject: [EnergyPlus_ Support] Hybrid
Ventilation Control
Hi,
I'm trying to improve the performance of a hybrid ventilation scheme in
an office space
I'm using EnergyPlus version 2.2
Concerning the control mode in the "Hybrid Ventilation control" model,
we have to specify either to control natural and mechanical
ventilation by temperature (control mode=1) or by ventilation rate
(control mode=4)
Is there a way to combine these two control modes together and
to let the program first to calculate the temperature (compare
it with the acceptable temperature ranges) and the ventilation
rate (compare it with the minimum ventilation rate) all together and then
decide whether to provide natural or mechanical ventilation?
Thanks for your support
Kind regards,
Sherif
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