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[EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Energy simulation fee



Dear Dimos,

My name is Luís Saraiva, I'm about to graduate on Mechanichal Engineering in the field of thermal Energy at Faculty of Engineering of the University of Porto (Portugal) and I also choosed to simulate a building with Energy Plus for my thesis. 
Besides that, the thesis'll also consist in making a small comparison between two or three modelling softwares (to export to Energy Plus) and between Energy Plus and another simulation program accepted by ASHRAE 140-2004.

As a consequence, I'd like to ask you to ask your opinion about the programs I should use and if it's possible to let me see your thesis (and others you think that might be interesting).

Regards,
Luís Saraiva


--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, D T <ellinas.1984@...> wrote:
>
> I think you can download DesignBuilder from the DesignBuilder website for free for a 30 day trial. After that, you have to buy the license to be able to continue to use it. Since I am a graduate student, I was able to get a student/educational discount for half the orginial price. I suggest just doing the trial and seeing if the software is adequate for your research. DesignBuilder allows you to model facilities w/ natural ventilation and, according to their website, they will soon release a version with a CFD tool. It allows you to also do many other things as far as building energy simulation as well. The DesignBuilder website is http://www.designbuilder.co.uk/ ; Hope this helps. 
>  
> Regards,
> Dimos Triantafillu
>  
> 
> --- On Wed, 2/4/09, jlucorrea75 <jlucorrea@...> wrote:
> 
> From: jlucorrea75 <jlucorrea@...>
> Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Energy simulation fee
> To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 5:15 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dinos
> 
> Where did you get the DesignBuilder software from? Trial,bought it?
> 
> JoseL
> 
> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@ yahoogroups. com, D T <ellinas.1984@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > In addition to Edwin's suggestion, you could also use the building
> energy simulation software, DesignBuilder. I used this program for my
> thesis work and it was adequate in modeling the facility I was doing
> an energy audit on. It is compatible with EnergyPlus meaning that you
> can export files from DesignBuilder into EnergyPlus and make
> modifications/ additions to your existing model. I mainly used
> DesignBuilder to draw the facility and specify building loads on it
> because it is not easy in EnergyPlus (especially if you are new to
> building energy simulation). There is also a CFD tool that
> DesignBuilder is implementing to be released soon. I suggest
> DesignBuilder because I've used it, though I'm sure that the other
> programs eQuest, Energy10, etc. would work just as well (though I
> haven't personally used them). Aside from DesignBuilder, there are
> also other programs that let you draw the faciltiy and export the file
> to EnergyPlus. Hope this helps. 
> >  
> > Dimos Triantafillu
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Edwin Lee <leeed2001@ ..> wrote:
> > 
> > From: Edwin Lee <leeed2001@ ..>
> > Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_ Support] Energy simulation fee
> > To: EnergyPlus_Support@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 12:52 PM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > For Fluent, there are a number of tutorials on the web, one
> is: http://instruct1. cit.cornell. edu/courses/ fluent/ .  For E+,
> there are a number of documents that come with E+, including the
> GettingStarted manual.  That should help if you are completely new to
> the programs.
> > 
> > 
> > Edwin
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Shamim Javed <javeds2006@ gmail.
> com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Shariq,
> > 
> > I am a new PhD student in Building Science at Virginia Tech. I have
> > just started taking a course in building simulation that, according to
> > the syllabus, would go over Energy10, eQuest and DOE2. I am concerned
> > that I may not be learning the up-to-date material in this course. I
> > am interested in research on 'natural ventilation' (as this is most
> > appropriate in the hot-humid climate context of Bangladesh where I
> > come from) and programs like Energy Plus and CFD packages like Fluent
> > may be programs I need to start learning.
> > 
> > As you seem to have a good background on building simulation please
> > advise how I should go about educating myself on this area (there are
> > no courses on E+ or Fluent at VT)
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Shamim Javed
> > PhD Program, School of Architecture + Design, Virginia Tech.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Syed Ali <alasrgroup@ gmail. com> wrote:
> > > GIve yourself 160 hours minimum. I would charge "time and a half"
> based off
> > > your regular hourly pay. Include delays for the engineering team
> not getting
> > > you the information you need, and time for them to revise their
> deisng per
> > > them not meeting the requirments in their system.
> > >
> > > I've done a few energy analysis in Trane Trace, I've begun using
> E+, but
> > > that stuff takes a very long time, if you dont know the LEED NC,
> EB, CI or
> > > whatever rating system they are using there will be a huge
> learning curve,
> > > be sure you know ASHRAE 90.1 like the back of your hand, you
> should also
> > > know ASHRAE 55 and 62.1.
> > >
> > > Let me know if you have any questions.
> > >
> > > Regards.
> > > Shariq
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:21 PM, jlucorrea75 <jlucorrea@gmail. com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi there!
> > >> Any one would give an idea of how much to charge, as a
> freelancer, for
> > >> an EnergyPlus energy modelling work? It's for a 9 storey commercial
> > >> building, about 1000m2, seeking a LEED gold certification. What
> is the
> > >> criteria to charge for these jobs?
> > >> Gracias
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Please note, I am now only using my GMAIL account for personal and
> business
> > > emails. Please update your address book.
> > > AlAsrGroup@gmail. com
> > >
> > > Take care,
> > > Shariq Ali
> > >
> > >
> >
>




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