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[EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Custom Weather Files - Radiation
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- Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Custom Weather Files - Radiation
- From: "hollywas" <hollywas@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 22:14:11 -0000
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Hi Linda,
Thank you for both replies. Could you possibly elaborate on the view factor calculations making E+ crash?
The complex models will run fine with a standard EPW. And the homemade EPW will run fine with a simple model. However combining the two causes fatal errors.
I know that the fatal errors occur when E+ "doesn't like" the radiation data, but I can't figure out what the specific parameter is that makes it crash. The problem seems to be a large delta in radiation data between timesteps, but it doesn't seem to be consistent.
Thank you for your time.
Holly
--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Linda Lawrie <linda@...> wrote:
>
> The weather converter can use the Global horizontal and calculate the
> direct and diffuse based on the Zhang-Huang correlation. It also
> will calculation the Horizontal IR from Sky (using the equation that
> is in the Auxiliary Programs document).
>
> The complexity of geometry may have problems in the view factor
> calculations -- we have worked on that problem for the next release.
>
> At 03:58 PM 10/4/2010, hollywas wrote:
> >Hello,
> >I am trying to make a custom EPW from an on-site weather
> >station. Strangely, the EPW will run successfully when paired with
> >a simple IDF, such as one of the EnergyPlus example files. However,
> >with a more complex model it will fail on certain timesteps. The
> >more zones the model contains, the more timesteps will cause fatal
> >errors... even when modeling the same building. The error message
> >says surface temperatures are out of range. It seems to fail at
> >timesteps when there is a large change in the direct and/or diffuse
> >radiation data. If I manually replace this radiation data, the
> >simulation will run successfully through this timestep.
> >
> >Do you have any idea why the complexity of the geometry would affect
> >the success of the EPW? Do you have any advice on fixing this
> >besides manually replacing the radiation data at every failing timestep?
> >
> >FYI, The Direct Normal and Diffuse Horiz Radiation are calculated
> >from measured Global Horiz Radiation. Horizontal Infrared Radiation
> >from Sky was not measured so I have tried different values
> >including: using TMY3 values and inputting the TMY3 average value
> >for each timestep. I also have one reference for how to model it,
> >but would appreciate any other advice.
> >
> >Thank you in advance for any help!
> >Sincerely,
> >Holly
> >
> >Holly W. Samuelson
>
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