Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Strange error = window vertices

Do you want to share your .idf file Jeremiah? It's really hard to guess without looking to the file.

Mostapha

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Jeremiah Crossett <jcrossett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Any further advise would be great- it just does not make since to see a window in place but have it not run- I deleted the daylight sensor and still having the issue.

Jeremiah D. Crossett  | Senior Analyst  | Phase Change Energy Solutions
120 E. Pritchard St. | Asheboro, NC 27203 | Mobile 503-688-8951

www.phasechange.com



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Jeremiah Crossett <jcrossett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Niraj, Linda, Ned

So I opened my file in open studio to see if there was a window there (before I started trying to understand how the vertices related to each other and found that the daylight sensor was outside of the space, and that the window was in the right place....

The strange thing is now I try to change where the daylight sensor is located but that does not fix the issue-

Jeremiah D. Crossett  | Senior Analyst  | Phase Change Energy Solutions
120 E. Pritchard St. | Asheboro, NC 27203 | Mobile 503-688-8951

www.phasechange.com



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Jeremiah Crossett <jcrossett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I just came across that- and it is "relative" for both the source file I took the window from and the file I am trying to use it within.

Jeremiah D. Crossett  | Senior Analyst  | Phase Change Energy Solutions
120 E. Pritchard St. | Asheboro, NC 27203 | Mobile 503-688-8951

www.phasechange.com



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Niraj Poudel <nirajpdl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jeremiah,

Do you have your "rectangular surface coordinate system" in the GlobalGeometryRules object defined in the "relative" or the "absolute" co-ordinate system?

I think that is what Linda is alluding to. I might be wrong.

Niraj

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Jeremiah Crossett <jcrossett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Sorry to be "dumb" but I do not quite understand the question- do you mean relative to the building surface detailed?

Jeremiah D. Crossett  | Senior Analyst  | Phase Change Energy Solutions
120 E. Pritchard St. | Asheboro, NC 27203 | Mobile 503-688-8951

www.phasechange.com



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Linda Lawrie <linda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Do you have relative coordinates? Such that when turned to "absolute" you have this?

At 04:38 PM 8/30/2012, Jeremiah Crossett wrote:

Ned & Linda-
Thank you for your avise- Now I am not sure what approach to take as the funny thing is that the origonal db file did not have any issue with this window:

NameBlock1:Zone1_Wall_5_0_0_0_0_0_Win

Surface TypeWindow
Construction Name1001
Building Surface NameBlock1:Zone1_Wall_5_0_0

Outside Boundary Condition Object

View Factor to Ground.5
Shading Control Name1001
Frame and Divider Name1
Multiplier1
Number of Vertices4
Vertex 1 X-coordinate-3.74464827
Vertex 1 Y-coordinate-3.637644475
Vertex 1 Z-coordinate.97536
Vertex 2 X-coordinate-1.30983827
Vertex 2 Y-coordinate-3.637644475
Vertex 2 Z-coordinate.97536
Vertex 3 X-coordinate-1.30983827
Vertex 3 Y-coordinate-3.637644475
Vertex 3 Z-coordinate1.9812
Vertex 4 X-coordinate-3.74464827
Vertex 4 Y-coordinate-3.637644475
Vertex 4 Z-coordinate1.9812

Jeremiah D. Crossett | Senior Analyst | Phase Change Energy Solutions

120 E. Pritchard St. | Asheboro, NC 27203 | Mobile 503-688-8951

www.phasechange.com

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Jeremiah Crossett < jcrossett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I found the issue, I pasted a window in place from a DB file, and it was rejected- BUT I can not understand why? the vertices's look like they are in the right place-and I want the change the window like I have many times before... Any advise?

Jeremiah D. Crossett
| Senior Analyst | Phase Change Energy Solutions

120 E. Pritchard St. | Asheboro, NC 27203 | Mobile 503-688-8951

www.phasechange.com

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Jeremiah Crossett < jcrossett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Anyone have ideas for this one> it was working fine and I changed an airflow setting then this> when I change back it does not go away...?

Program Version,EnergyPlus-64-MP 7.1.0.012, 8/30/2012 3:03 PM,IDD_Version 7.1.0.012

   ************* Beginning Zone Sizing Calculations

   ** Severe ** CalcCoordinateTransformation: Invalid dot product, surface="FIN Left":

   **   ~~~   ** ( -3.745, -3.638,   1.981)

   **   ~~~   ** ( -3.745, -3.638,   0.975)

   **   ~~~   ** ( -3.745, -3.638,   0.975)

   **   ~~~   ** ( -3.745, -3.638,   1.981)

   ** Fatal ** CalcCoordinateTransformation: Program terminates due to preceding condition.

   ...Summary of Errors that led to program termination:

   ..... Reference severe error count=1

   ..... Last severe error=CalcCoordinateTransformation: Invalid dot product, surface="FIN Left":

   ************* Warning: Node connection errors not checked - most system input has not been read (see previous warning).

   ************* Fatal error -- final processing. Program exited before simulations began. See previous error messages.

   ************* EnergyPlus Warmup Error Summary. During Warmup: 0 Warning; 0 Severe Errors.

   ************* EnergyPlus Sizing Error Summary. During Sizing: 0 Warning; 1 Severe Errors.

   ************* EnergyPlus Terminated--Fatal Error Detected. 0 Warning; 1 Severe Errors; Elapsed Time=00hr 00min 0.86sec

Jeremiah D. Crossett
| Senior Analyst | Phase Change Energy Solutions

120 E. Pritchard St. | Asheboro, NC 27203 | Mobile 503-688-8951

www.phasechange.com

--
Niraj Poudel, Architectural Engineer.
PhD student, PDBE Program.
Clemson University, Clemson, SC.

Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Strange error = window vertices - but why?