Why do you want to average the peak values after simulation.
You already know that the statistical property of TMY in DesignDay is 0.4% 1%, etc.
How do you define the average value of peak values?
What is the "problem of simulation peak values in Summary Reports"? You can increase the size of your system or plant by using the multipler, if you wish.
TMY peak is not the maximum peak of your local real weather condition. There may be larger peak values in the real weather condition. So you should design in some overload protection for your real system. It is not a simulation problem. For a large real system, the start up procedure is not by simply turn every power swithc on at the same time. Eplus provides you with the peak start up requirement, so that you can design the real system to minimize the transient effect.
Dr. Li
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: ecoeficiente@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 12:32:21 +0000
Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Problem with Peak results in Summary Reports: a suggestion
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You already know that the statistical property of TMY in DesignDay is 0.4% 1%, etc.
How do you define the average value of peak values?
What is the "problem of simulation peak values in Summary Reports"? You can increase the size of your system or plant by using the multipler, if you wish.
TMY peak is not the maximum peak of your local real weather condition. There may be larger peak values in the real weather condition. So you should design in some overload protection for your real system. It is not a simulation problem. For a large real system, the start up procedure is not by simply turn every power swithc on at the same time. Eplus provides you with the peak start up requirement, so that you can design the real system to minimize the transient effect.
Dr. Li
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: ecoeficiente@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 12:32:21 +0000
Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Problem with Peak results in Summary Reports: a suggestion
Sorry Jean but peak values in summary reports come from Simulation results, not sizing results. I know the option for load averaging but it is only available for sizing calculation so it does not solve the problem of simulation peak values in Summary Reports.
Germán
--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jean marais" <jeannieboef@...> wrote:
>
>
> This is implimented in the sizing:parameters object. It is the last field, Load Averaging Window Time. See the io ref as it is time step length dependant, not time dependant directly.
>
> Jean
> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "ecoeficientees" <ecoeficiente@> wrote:
> >
> > I have found that peak values in Summary Reports, which could be useful for HVAC design can lead to extremely high values usually due to system startups (e.g.after an unoccupied weekend) and the fact that the results come from system timestep.
> >
> > I think it could be useful to be able to setup a time window for the peak values (to average them) so that Summary Reports could be more useful for HVAC design (when the designer is interested in peak values from simulation, not from designday sizing).
> >
> > Just an idea for E+ developers...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Germán.
> >
>
Germán
--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jean marais" <jeannieboef@...> wrote:
>
>
> This is implimented in the sizing:parameters object. It is the last field, Load Averaging Window Time. See the io ref as it is time step length dependant, not time dependant directly.
>
> Jean
> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "ecoeficientees" <ecoeficiente@> wrote:
> >
> > I have found that peak values in Summary Reports, which could be useful for HVAC design can lead to extremely high values usually due to system startups (e.g.after an unoccupied weekend) and the fact that the results come from system timestep.
> >
> > I think it could be useful to be able to setup a time window for the peak values (to average them) so that Summary Reports could be more useful for HVAC design (when the designer is interested in peak values from simulation, not from designday sizing).
> >
> > Just an idea for E+ developers...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Germán.
> >
>
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