[EnergyPlus_Support] Re: AMY-weather files for North Europe

["Jean marais" <jeannieboef@xxxxxxxxx>]

And for DesignDays?

--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "rokkas80" <lukas.rokka@...> wrote:
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> E+ don't model the solar radiation by it self. You need to have weather files with measured or/and modeled values. But E+ may have some simple "sanity check"  (like that there shouldn't be any solar radiation during night time and min/max limits). 
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> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jean marais" <jeannieboef@> wrote:
> >
> > no. i mean from latidute and longitude and the equation of time, etc. together with some assumptions about atmospheric conditions, the direct and diffuse radiation can be calculated. It does not have to be measured, or? If there was no weather data for this, or incorrect weather data...I was under the impression that e+ runs a "sanity check" to see if the radiation from weather files is okay. And if not, it uses it's calculated results? I've made a excel spreadsheet once to do this as a check...and the results are okay.
> > 
> > --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "rokkas80" <lukas.rokka@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't understand what you are asking for, could you please clarify?
> > > Do you mean that e+ calculates the direct normal solar from global and diffuse solar? Well, the Weather Converter program can calculate the direct normal from global and diffuse solar according to the documentation. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jean marais" <jeannieboef@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Even though the solar data from STR�NG varies in quality it's still better, for most sites, than that provided in the ASHREAE IWEC files"
> > > > 
> > > > Doesn't e+ calculate the direct solar?
> > > > 
> > > > --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "rokkas80" <lukas.rokka@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I've updated my tool for creating Actual Meteorological Year (AMY) files for North Europe. The tool can be downloaded at http://rtwc.blob.core.windows.net/clickonce/publish.htm.
> > > > > 
> > > > > News for this version, Real-Time Weather Converter 2.0:
> > > > > - All data from ISD is available, also data marked as "Additional". If you tried the tool before but didn't get any data for your station, you should now be able to get usable data for most locations.
> > > > > - A new server that maps data from the SMHI server. Now retrieval time are just a few seconds for one year of solar data. A AMY-files can now be made in under a minute. 
> > > > > - Missing data points are visualized graphically.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The tool was made as part of my MSc degree project at M�lardalens University, Sweden. It uses observed actual weather data from the Integrated Surface Database (ISD), http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/isd, and modeled solar radiation data from STR�NG, http://strang.smhi.se. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Roughly, the tool covers most of Europe excluding south Europe. Long-term coverage is from 1 of January 1999 to up to date for the northernmost area, the southern area is covered from 1 of June 2006 (see website for map).
> > > > > 
> > > > > The quality of the solar radiation data from STR�NG varies in the geographical dimension. Roughly the model gives good result for Sweden and Central Europe, but underestimates for ocean coast near areas like UK, Norway etc. The model do underestimate as well for the Baltics, northern Finland and some high altitude sites. There's a validation figure (for Google Earth) at the tools homepage in the help section. Even though the solar data from STR�NG varies in quality it's still better, for most sites, than that provided in the ASHREAE IWEC files (which underestimate direct solar radiation in the range of 20 to 40 % for the area in question). For model calibration these data are very useful.
> > > > > 
> > > > > You are free to use the modeled solar radiation data from STR�NG. Weather data from ISD may however have restrictions regarding commercial usage, depending on country and what data is being used. Some countries (UK, Norway, Netherlands, Slovenia and Sweden from next year(?)) have free weather data, other countries some restrictions and some countries have most of their weather data restricted. There is a method in the tool that excludes data marked as "Additional" by WMO, this should make commercial use of resulting weather files possible for most countries (my personal interpretation of WMO resolution 40 Annex I). But it's up to the end user of the tool to read and interpret the WMO resolution 40 and check with their National Weather Service for their data policy. If intentions are non-commercial the data accessed and created by this tool can be used freely for all countries in question. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The ISD lack recent data for many of the German weather stations. Observed weather data can still be acquired from other sources (i.e. EnergyPlus real-time weather service, Wunderground) and by using copy/paste inserted into the tool. The tool has methods for re-sampling, interpolating and filling data gaps.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This tool was developed to make AMY-files to be used for model calibration.  But it would be possible to use a similar approach to create Typical Metrological Year (TMY) files as well, at least for the geographic area where there soon exist 13 years of free solar radiation data available free via STR�NG. Let me know if you think there's a demand for this kind of weather files or if you know of any available tools or algorithms that can make this kind of files.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best regards, 
> > > > > Lukas Lundstr�m
> > > > > https://sites.google.com/site/weatherconverter
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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