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Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] DX Cooling coil single speed
Sorry. I cannot help with that.
On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 9:19 AM, sandip gupta <mailto:sandipgupta_nh@xxxxxxxxxxx>sandipgupta_nh@xxxxxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support] <<mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Actually I am desigining a controller in matlab and through BCVTB I am sending the set point to E+. Now Most of the variables I am using from reporting variable. The only problem I am now facing is with calculation of
>  ZSF1:Zone Air Heat Balance Surface Convection Rate [W] and  Air Heat Balance Outdoor Air Transfer Rate [W].
> Can u help me with the related formulas used to calculate the above values. So that I can develop a suitable logic.
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> Regards,
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> On Wed, 6/7/16, Jim Dirkes <mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support] <<mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] DX Cooling coil single speed
> To: "<mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <<mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wednesday, 6 July, 2016, 6:09 PM
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> Sandip,Have you
> reported Output:Variables such as:Output:Variable,*,Cooling Coil
> Electric Power,hourly; !- HVAC Average [W]Output:Variable,*,Cooling Coil Sensible Cooling
> Rate,hourly; !- HVAC Average [W]
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> to create Meter:Custom for specific
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> These may make your
> evaluation simpler than using manual
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> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 4:32
> PM, sandip gupta <mailto:sandipgupta_nh@xxxxxxxxxxx>sandipgupta_nh@xxxxxxxxxxx
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> Thank you for your kind reply.
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> My main aim is to find the relation between Power
> consumption by HVAC system for a given desired room
> temperature and outdoor room temperature.I have already used
> the performance curve to get the power consumption using
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> Q.total=Q.total.rated*EIR*RTF
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> and PLR=actual sensible cooling load /steady state sensible
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> What is the formula to calculate actual sensible cooling
> load and steady state sensible cooling rate where can I find
> this values is reporting XLS sheet.
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> How actual sensible cooling load and steady state sensible
> cooling rate are related to Desired Set Point Temperature
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> With Regards,
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> Sandip Gupta
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> On Wed, 6/7/16, Jean Marais <mailto:jeannieboef@xxxxxxxxx>jeannieboef@xxxxxxxxx
> [EnergyPlus_Support] <<mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] DX Cooling coil single
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> Date: Wednesday, 6 July, 2016, 1:06 AM
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> Dear Sandip,
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> DX equipment models mostly use a set of 4
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> curves that are generated using regression analysis from
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> matrix of performance data provided by the manufacturer.
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> This matrix describes how the equipment performs under a
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> wide variety of different operating conditions. The
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> Be forewarned that this topic is probably the
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> simulation
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> community can come up against. If you are a beginner e+
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> user, my advice would be NOT to start with the most
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> Perhaps you state what you wish your model
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> you observed, followed by what you cannot interperate or
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> Kindly yours,
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> On 5 Jul 2016 2:15 pm,
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> "sandip gupta <mailto:sandipgupta_nh@xxxxxxxxxxx>sandipgupta_nh@xxxxxxxxxxx
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> While calculating the power consumption of a
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> Cooling Coil Single Speed.
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> Step 1: Total Cooling Capacity as a function of
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> Step 3: Qtotal = Qtotal,rated * (TotCapTempModFac) *
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> EnergyPlus? Version 8.5 Documentation Engineering
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> Reference Page Number 785 calculations.
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> Please help me out how to calculate the power consumption
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> HVAC system for different set point temperature. Does
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> I would be very very thankful to you if you kindly solve
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> With Warm Regards,
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