[Equest-users] Total Site versus Total Source Energy BEPS

Vikram Sami VSami at lasarchitect.com
Thu Oct 22 12:27:14 PDT 2009


In essence Alan is correct. However - for electric energy the largest
losses are not the T&D losses (7.2% according to Wikipedia; 3% according
to the chart below from the DOE) , but the conversion losses at the
plant.  So the site-source utilization is around 33%

 

 

 

For an on-site CH&P generator, you would still have some losses - around
25% conversion loss, so the site-source utilization is around 75%, so
there should still be a discrepancy between the two. 

 

 

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From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of
Jackson, Alan
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:15 PM
To: James Geers
Cc: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Total Site versus Total Source Energy BEPS

 

The Site is your building model. Source takes in to account losses and
inefficiencies in delivery of energy from the source "plant", and hence
reflects energy used at that source. If all energy was on site, they
should be equal.

 

Alan Jackson, LEED AP
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[mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of James
Geers
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:56 AM
To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Equest-users] Total Site versus Total Source Energy BEPS

 

I have noticed these two lines on my BEPS report.  Which number
accurately reflects the energy consumption of my building?  What is the
difference between the two?  If all of my energy was generated on site
would the numbers be equal?

 

 

 

TOTAL SITE ENERGY      2517.74 MBTU     29.0 KBTU/SQFT-YR GROSS-AREA
29.0 KBTU/SQFT-YR NET-AREA

TOTAL SOURCE ENERGY    4867.80 MBTU     56.0 KBTU/SQFT-YR GROSS-AREA
56.0 KBTU/SQFT-YR NET-AREA

 

 

Thank you,

 

 

 

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