[Equest-users] PHOTOCELL-CTRL problem
Nick Caton
ncaton at smithboucher.com
Fri Oct 23 13:09:59 PDT 2009
Thanks Brian!
I simultaneously figured out that PHOTOCELL-CTRL is in fact compatible
with MULTIPLIER type schedules. The root of my problem was that using
ON/OFF as with the help file's example meant I couldn't select that
schedule to apply to my external direct load within my "exterior
lighting" electrical meter (at least within eQuest).
In the spirit of avoiding misinformation in the archive, here are my
corrected schedules for anyone else that is facing this in the future:
----------DAY
"ExtLtg Dusk/Dawn DaySch" = DAY-SCHEDULE-PD
TYPE = MULTIPLIER
VALUES = ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,
1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,
1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,
1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 )
..
"ExtLtg Dusk/12AM DaySch" = DAY-SCHEDULE-PD
TYPE = MULTIPLIER
VALUES = ( 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1,
1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,
1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 )
..
"ExtLtg Security DaySch" = DAY-SCHEDULE-PD
TYPE = MULTIPLIER
VALUES = ( 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 )
..
----------WEEK
"ExtLtg Dusk/Dawn WeekSch" = WEEK-SCHEDULE-PD
TYPE = MULTIPLIER
DAY-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Dusk/Dawn DaySch" )
..
"ExtLtg Dusk/12AM WeekSch" = WEEK-SCHEDULE-PD
TYPE = MULTIPLIER
DAY-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Dusk/12AM DaySch" )
..
"ExtLtg Security WeekSch" = WEEK-SCHEDULE-PD
TYPE = MULTIPLIER
DAY-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Security DaySch" )
..
----------ANNUAL
"ExtLtg Dusk/Dawn AnnSch" = SCHEDULE-PD
TYPE = MULTIPLIER
PHOTOCELL-CTRL = DAY-OFF
MONTH = ( 12 )
DAY = ( 31 )
WEEK-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Dusk/Dawn WeekSch" )
..
"ExtLtg Dusk/12AM AnnSch" = SCHEDULE-PD
TYPE = MULTIPLIER
PHOTOCELL-CTRL = DAY-OFF
MONTH = ( 12 )
DAY = ( 31 )
WEEK-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Dusk/12AM WeekSch" )
..
"ExtLtg Security AnnSch" = SCHEDULE-PD
TYPE = MULTIPLIER
MONTH = ( 12 )
DAY = ( 31 )
WEEK-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Security WeekSch" )
..
NICK CATON, E.I.T.
PROJECT ENGINEER
25501 west valley parkway
olathe ks 66061
direct 913 344.0036
fax 913 345.0617
Check out our new web-site @ www.smithboucher.com
-----Original Message-----
From: B. Fountain [mailto:bfountain at greensim.com]
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:04 PM
To: Nick Caton
Cc: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: PHOTOCELL-CTRL problem
Nick,
Yes, you can edit the exterior lighting fractional schedule with the
photocell keywords. You need to add this in the .inp -- it is not
currently in the eQUEST interface.
"Ext ltg sch" = SCHEDULE-PD
TYPE = FRACTION
PHOTOCELL-CTRL = DAY-OFF
MONTH = ( 12 )
DAY = ( 31 )
WEEK-SCHEDULES = ( "ext ltg wk sch" )
..
Just tried it and it works great.
Brian
> I'm at the point of troubleshooting the application of PHOTOCELL-CTRL
to
> my exterior lighting loads.
>
>
>
> My lighting loads are accounted under an electrical meter as shown on
> the attached image.
>
>
>
> The help file and previous discussions on this mailing list seem to
> indicate that the use of PHOTOCELL-CTRL requires that the referenced
> schedule be of the type "ON/OFF."
>
>
>
> The conflict is that a schedule applied to an exterior direct load
under
> an electrical meter must be of the type "MULTIPLIER." If I set up my
> schedules as "ON/OFF" per the PHOTOCELL-CTRL directions, they don't
> appear in the dropdown list to be selected in the attached screengrab.
>
>
>
> I want to apply PHOTOCELL-CTRL behavior for my exterior light
> schedules... can anyone point me in the right direction to make this
> happen? Is it possible PHOTOCELL-CTRL just works when the schedule is
> of the type "MULTIPLIER?"
>
>
>
> Attached is the the DOE2 help file entry in its entirety for
reference.
>
>
> Also for reference, my 3 Exterior Lighting Schedules look like this at
> the moment:
>
>
>
> ----------DAY
>
>
>
> "ExtLtg Dusk/Dawn DaySch" = DAY-SCHEDULE-PD
>
> TYPE = ON/OFF
>
> VALUES = ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,
>
> 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,
>
> 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,
>
> 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 )
>
> ..
>
> "ExtLtg Dusk/12AM DaySch" = DAY-SCHEDULE-PD
>
> TYPE = ON/OFF
>
> VALUES = ( 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
>
> 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1,
>
> 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,
>
> 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 )
>
> ..
>
> "ExtLtg Security DaySch" = DAY-SCHEDULE-PD
>
> TYPE = ON/OFF
>
> VALUES = ( 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
>
> 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
>
> 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
>
> 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, )
>
> ..
>
>
>
> ----------WEEK
>
>
>
> "ExtLtg Dusk/Dawn WeekSch" = WEEK-SCHEDULE-PD
>
> TYPE = ON/OFF
>
> DAY-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Dusk/Dawn DaySch" )
>
> ..
>
> "ExtLtg Dusk/12AM WeekSch" = WEEK-SCHEDULE-PD
>
> TYPE = ON/OFF
>
> DAY-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Dusk/12AM DaySch" )
>
> ..
>
> "ExtLtg Security WeekSch" = WEEK-SCHEDULE-PD
>
> TYPE = ON/OFF
>
> DAY-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Security DaySch" )
>
> ..
>
>
>
> ----------ANNUAL
>
>
>
> "ExtLtg Dusk/Dawn AnnSch" = SCHEDULE-PD
>
> TYPE = ON/OFF
>
> PHOTOCELL-CTRL = DAY-OFF
>
> MONTH = ( 12 )
>
> DAY = ( 31 )
>
> WEEK-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Dusk/Dawn WeekSch" )
>
> ..
>
> "ExtLtg Dusk/12AM AnnSch" = SCHEDULE-PD
>
> TYPE = ON/OFF
>
> PHOTOCELL-CTRL = DAY-OFF
>
> MONTH = ( 12 )
>
> DAY = ( 31 )
>
> WEEK-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Dusk/12AM WeekSch" )
>
> ..
>
> "ExtLtg Security AnnSch" = SCHEDULE-PD
>
> TYPE = ON/OFF
>
> MONTH = ( 12 )
>
> DAY = ( 31 )
>
> WEEK-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Security WeekSch" )
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> NICK CATON, E.I.T.
>
> PROJECT ENGINEER
>
> 25501 west valley parkway
>
> olathe ks 66061
>
> direct 913 344.0036
>
> fax 913 345.0617
>
> Check out our new web-site @ www.smithboucher.com
>
>
>
> From: Brian Fountain [mailto:bfountain at greensim.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 9:12 PM
> To: Nick Caton
> Cc: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Editing External lighting Schedule
>
>
>
> You mean something like this (from the new features help file)...
>
>
> PHOTOCELL-CTRL
>
>
> Accepts a code-word specifying whether the hourly value in the
> referenced DAY-SCHEDULE can be overridden either ON (value = 1.0) or
OFF
> ( value = 0.0) according to whether it is day or night.
>
> DAY-OFF Forces the hourly schedule value to be 0.0
> whenever the sun is up.
>
> DAY-ON Forces the hourly schedule value to be
1.0
> whenever the sun is up.
>
> NIGHT-OFF Forces the hourly schedule value to be 0.0
> whenver the sun is down.
>
> NIGHT-ON Forces the hourly schedule value to be 1.0
> whenever the sun is down.
>
> For example, assume lighting in a parking lot is to be on from dusk
> until 11 p.m. The earliest the lights are allowed to illuminate is 4
> p.m., but will not actually start until the sun is down:
>
> "Parking Lot DSch" = DAY-SCHEDULE-PD
> TYPE = ON/OFF
> VALUES = ( 0., 0., 0., 0., 0., 0.,
> 0., 0., 0., 0., 0., 0.,
> 0., 0., 0., 1., 1., 1.,
> 1., 1., 1., 1., 1., 0. )
>
> "Parking Lot WSch" = WEEK-SCHEDULE-PD
> TYPE = ON/OFF
> DAY-SCHEDULES = ("Parking Lot DSch")
> ..
>
> "Parking Lot Sch" = SCHEDULE-PD
> TYPE = ON/OFF
> PHOTOCELL-CTRL = DAY-OFF
> MONTH = (12)
> DAY = (31)
> WEEK-SCHEDULES = ("Parking Lot WSch")
> ..
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Nick Caton wrote:
>
> With regard to exterior lighting, It occurred to me today that eQuest
> currently has the capability to determine the operating hours of
> interior lights based on an amount of daylight, specific to the hours
of
> daylight occurring during the year for a given location, using the
> daylighting functions...
>
> How much of a stretch/challenge would it be to accurately determine
how
> often photocell-controlled exterior lights are operating through the
> year based on available daylight outside of the building??
>
> It might be an awesome feature to consider for future wizards: where
one
> simply defines the exterior lighting wattage, and could additionally
> designates realistic timeclock/photocell controls, such as "on when it
> turns dark and off after 2AM."
>
> NICK CATON, E.I.T.
> PROJECT ENGINEER
> 25501 west valley parkway
> olathe ks 66061
> direct 913 344.0036
> fax 913 345.0617
> Check out our new web-site @ www.smithboucher.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [
> mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of
> Matutinovic, Luka
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 9:03 AM
> To: John Aulbach; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org; nate murray
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Editing External lighting Schedule
>
> I had limited success in editing the Wizard schedules by adjusting the
> max and min thresholds on the vertical axis and the start and end
hours
> along the top axis. My understanding is that eQuest generates those
> schedules based on the building type definition at the beginning of
the
> shell wizard. I had many headaches trying to edit the schedule after
I
> realized I selected the wrong building type, especially when dealing
> with multiple shells. I inevitably end up using John's approach once
in
> the detailed mode.
>
> When people are creating models for LEED, do you use the schedules
found
> in the back of the 90.1 User's Manual, or do you create your own
> schedules? How has the USGBC reviewed this issue since according to
App
> G, schedule creation is up to the designer and the "rating authority"?
> It would seem to me that the USGBC wouldn't care as long as you use
> schedules that are reasonable for the building type and anticipated
> operation, and that the reference building uses the same ones (unless
> daylight controls or demand controlled ventilation is being dealt with
> through schedules and not simulation software directly).
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Luka Matutinovic
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [
> mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of John
> Aulbach
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 1:47 AM
> To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org; nate murray
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Editing External lighting Schedule
>
>
> Nate:
>
> The only way I know to edit such schedules is to change the mode to
> Detailed Edit, then make the schedule changes.
>
> If you try to go back to the Wizard mode, those changes will be
deleted.
>
> John Aulbach
>
> --- On Thu, 7/9/09, nate murray <natemurr at gmail.com>
> <mailto:natemurr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> From: nate murray <natemurr at gmail.com>
> <mailto:natemurr at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Equest-users] Editing External lighting Schedule
> To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 5:59 PM
> Hi,
> I want to make the external lighting schedule so that there is a
>
> little bit smaller loads in april and october then the rest of
> the
> months. I see the monthly profiles on the External lighting
> screen in
> Design Wizard, but how do I go about editing those monthly
> profiles...if that's what I should do.
>
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Nathan Murray
>
>
>
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