[Equest-users] residential building without first floor

John Aulbach jra_sac at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 7 23:14:50 PST 2010


Hi Shirley:

One thing to add to Carol's assistance - how do you exit such a building in case 
of a fire? Elevators would be out of order. Are there any fire escape door from 
the 2nd floor to the ground?

John Aulbach




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From: Carol Gardner <cmg750 at gmail.com>
To: "Zhang, Shirley" <zhangx at cdm.com>
Cc: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 6:34:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] residential building without first floor

Hi Shirley,

I don't think you have to do anything other than model your second floor at the 
appropriate height, z=however high in the air it is, and specify the floor as 
being "over unconditioned space. I would ignore the columns and the first floor, 
they have no significant thermal impact on the space, except for the elevator 
which I would create a separate shell for with the height of the shell set at 
the entire height the elevator travels. Input the lighting w/sf for the elevator 
cab and the w/sf or kW to account for the elevator motor and you are good. I am 
envisioning that the apartment doors open onto a corridor, right? If that's true 
and their are no exterior doors you won't have to worry about doors. You could 
put one on the elevator space. You shouldn't have any difficulty placing your 
windows on your exterior walls if you set it up like this.

Best,

Carol


On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Zhang, Shirley <zhangx at cdm.com> wrote:

Hello eQuest Fellows,
> 
>I’m a new user of here, and I’m now trying to model a 10-floor residential 
>building that has no first floor. It has several columns in the first floor in 
>an open space (it is not a parking space also, it is just a simple open space), 
>and it provides a few elevators there for you get to 2-10 floors. How do you 
>think I should place my windows and doors? This might be a basic question but my 
>problem is I don’t know where to place my doors. The doors for this building 
>seem like to be the elevator , and it is “inside” the building instead of being 
>on any of the façades. It looks like this from a 2nd-floor plan view:
> 
>    
>
>                                                                                             
> Columns
>                                                                                              
> Elevator
>             
> 
> 
>
>And how can I place my windows? There is even no walls there. 
> 
>Thanks.
> 
>Regards,
> 
>Shirley
> 
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Carol Gardner PE



      
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