[Equest-users] lost the 3D Geometry tab

[Susan F]

As far as testing - I absolutely do spend a great deal of time testing my
models.  My point was that I haven't had a chance today to determine if the
issue was only occurring as a direct result of selecting the self shading.

I don't need the 3-D view other than to visually inspect the input that was
done by others.

I will try closing everything else to see if it helps.  I have had
significant issues with the size of this model.

Thanks for the response.

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Pasha Korber-Gonzalez <
pasha.pkconsulting at gmail.com> wrote:

> Susan,
>
> my guess is that this is a memory/refresh issue that eQuest & your computer
> are fighting about.  If you have many other programs open while you are
> trying to run a really LARGE eQuest file you will run into issues with the
> 3-D graphic viewer and memory problems.
>
> As far as "testing"--we are engineers & scientist and all good models and
> all good simulators run "tests" or "experiments" to better understand how
> the program is behaving.  Remember two things:
>
> 1) if you are not "testing" your models, you are not doing quality work to
> make yourself a good simulator--(I hate it too sometimes, but I have to
> force myself to be the scientist that I am and that I was trained to be. We
> have to "suck it up" and take the extra time to do the extra work.
>
> 2)  just because you see a problem with eQuest itself doesn't always mean
> that there is a problem with your simulation (DOE-2.2) results...remember
> that eQuest is a user interface and effectively eQuest is only the
> translator between you (the user) and DOE-2 the simulation engine.
> Sometimes if you can get by with out having to see the 3-D model images you
> can still run your simulations without the visual reference.  If you don't
> need to look at your 3-D model view you should still be okay to continue
> with your inputs and go foward with your simulation.
>
> For more assistance post your .pd2 & .inp file for others to look at,
> however where you had mentioned your file takes soooo long to open this is
> discouraging to those of us that are trying to meet our own project
> deadlines.  One other thought for the future is to work with an experienced
> modeler or attend a training class where you can learn how to simplify your
> models and inputs for the sake of a more efficient model file without losing
> design details that will affect the energy consumption.
>
> My immediate advice would be:  close every other program you are running
> simultaneously, and it might even be beneficial to just restart your
> computer to clear it's memory, and then run some experiments to know what
> this visual error is or is not affecting in your model, try and figure out
> how you can re-zone your model so that it simplifies the run times on your
> model.
>
> Pasha
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Susan F <modelsenergy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The tab is really gone - see attached.  It seems to be when I set
>> SHADING-SURFACE = YES.  I haven't tested this many times yet though as the
>> model takes a long time to open.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Nick Caton <ncaton at smithboucher.com>wrote:
>>
>>>  If you mean the 3D view is blank (typical on opening a large previous
>>> project in my experience), that’s something easily corrected by running a
>>> simulation in my experience… if there’s a faster way I’d like to hear it
>>> though!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you mean you’ve literally lost the tab on the top – that’s weird!  I
>>> don’t have any answers for you, but it might help to post a screenshot.
>>>
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>>> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
>>> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Susan F
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:31 AM
>>> *To:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
>>> *Subject:* [Equest-users] lost the 3D Geometry tab
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In one of my models I have lost the 3-D Geometry tab - any idea of how to
>>> get it back?
>>>
>>> TIA.
>>>
>>
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