[Equest-users] Heat Recovery

Kathryn Kerns kathryn.kerns at bceengineers.com
Mon Aug 1 16:11:43 PDT 2011


 

Bill, I have successfully managed to get rid of the ERV cooling increase
by increasing the OA-DT to about 20 F and using the "only run during
heating mode" function. Why I don't know.  My guess is that the smaller
the OA-DT, the more chances the controls have of over shooting their
cooling set points which then adds to the total cooling energy
consumption. 

 

 

Kathryn Kerns

Systems Specialist

BCE Engineers, Inc.

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From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Robby
Oylear
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 1:22 PM
To: Bishop, Bill
Cc: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org; Bill Lafley
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Heat Recovery

 

To piggy back onto this discussion, I've been having trouble with a heat
recovery system that's increasing the cooling energy of my system.  I
can understand that under certain control schemes, this might actually
be the case, but even when I set the control method to OA-DT and select
that the ERV will only run during heating operation, the end result is
still an increase in cooling.  

 

Does anyone have any insight into what could be causing this?

 

Thanks,

Robby Oylear, LEED(r) AP BD+C

Mechanical Project Engineer

Energy Analyst

 

D 206-788-4571 | C 206-354-2721

www.rushingco.com <http://www.rushingco.com/> 

 

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 6:13 AM, Bishop, Bill <wbishop at pathfinder-ea.com>
wrote:

Bill,

There should always be at least a slight increase in fan energy when you
add heat recovery to a system, leaving everything else equal (duct size,
cabinet size, airflow rate etc.). By default, eQUEST adds either 1.5" or
1.0" static pressure (depending on the ERV device type you select) to
both the make-up and exhaust air streams. The extra static is added to
the system supply and return fans, unless you create separate
"self-contained" ERV-FANS under the system Outdoor Air -> Heat Recovery
2 tab. If you don't have separate fans in the ERV/HRV, and you know what
the total static pressure of the system is with heat recovery included,
you can enter the system SUPPLY-STATIC under Fans -> Fan Power and
Control, and zero out the ERV-OA-STATIC and ERV-EXH-STATIC.

If the heat recovery system is not designed yet and you are running
what-if scenarios, try different control strategies under system Outdoor
Air -> Heat Recovery 1, ERV-RUN-CTRL and ERV-RECOVER-MODE. Optimizing
the control strategy will help you find the best balance between fan
energy penalty, cooling energy savings/penalty and heating energy
savings.

Regards,
Bill


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[mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Bill
Lafley
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 1:34 PM
To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Equest-users] Heat Recovery


Hello,

When I add heat recovery to my proposed model the natural gas usage
drops significantly but the vent fan electrical usage skyrockets to
almost 6 times the base vent fan usage without heat recovery.  I
searched the archives and tried adjusting down the in W.G. but it does
not seem to reduce it.  Is there something else I should be looking at?

Thanks,

<http://www.cetonline.org>

Bill Lafley <mailto:blafley at cetonline.org> | Energy Analyst
Center for EcoTechnology
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