[Equest-users] Equest-users Digest, Vol 36, Issue 7
kirti pabrekar
arkirtipabrekar at gmail.com
Tue Mar 8 01:00:22 PST 2011
hi all,
i have simulated a floor plate of the entire model in equest.
the results show me values for the following,
1. space cooling
2. ventilation fans
3. miscellaneous equipments
4. Domestic hot water
5. Area lights
6. Exterior usage.
my questions are as follows,
1. i cannot understand the difference between the area lights and exterior
usage.
i remember having put in the LPD equal to 0.7 w/sqft in the wizard entry. i
have done nothing to change this value through the detailed input.
2. i do not have a clear understanding of what miscellaneous equipements
indicate. i remember having put in the EPD in the wizard entry as 0.5
W/sqft. i have not changed this too in the detailed input.
i have also noticed that the figures for DHW, Miscellaneous equipments, area
lighting and the exterior usage remain same through out my baseline runs. is
this correct?
please elaborate
thanks
kirti
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> 1. Re: Different zoning per floor (Charles Land)
> 2. LEED - Residential lighting (Ana N.)
> 3. Re: Inputting Elevator and Cooking Loads onSub-Meters (Nick Caton)
> 4. Re: Base Case building glazing (Nick Caton)
> 5. Exterior Facade Lighting (RJTHEACMAN at aol.com)
> 6. Re: Exterior Facade Lighting (Steven Savich)
> 7. Re: Exterior Facade Lighting (Nick Caton)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Charles Land <cland at geo-marine.com>
> To: "Jamil ." <jimmyat81 at hotmail.com>, equest <
> equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 23:47:26 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Different zoning per floor
>
> You have to make the two floors two separate shells and stack them on top
> of each other. You can do this by defining the x y z coordinates on the
> first page of the new shell. You want to make the z coordinate on the
> second shell the same as the height of the first shell. You will also want
> to define the roof of the first floor as below conditioned space and the
> foundation for the second as above conditioned space.
>
>
>
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Jamil .
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 06, 2011 7:18 AM
> *To:* equest
> *Subject:* [Equest-users] Different zoning per floor
>
>
>
> Hi folks
>
> I am working on a two story office building, where the layout of the ground
> is not same like the layout of the first floor and accordingly the HVAC
> zoning varies from ground to first floor.
>
> In the schematic wizard, I am facing a problem of defining different zoning
> for each floor, as the program copies the zones of the ground to the first
> and does not allow for editing the first floor zoning.
>
> I managed to define different zones in the detailed design, by editing the
> copied zones in the first floor thru changing the vortices of each zone.
> This method took a considerable amount of time and was pretty confusing.
>
> I was wondering first, if there is a way to define different zoning in the
> first and ground floor in the schematic wizard and second, if there is an
> easier way to change the zoning in the first floor during the detailed
> design.
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> Jamil
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ana N. <ananeddav at hotmail.com>
> To: <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 14:18:32 +0000
> Subject: [Equest-users] LEED - Residential lighting
> Dear e-quest users,
>
> Has anyone tried and succeed in getting credit for lighting reduction in
> residential buildings? Appendix G requires that the lighting in residential
> units is modeled identical in the baseline and proposed, but CIR dated
> 3/23/2007 (for LEED v 2.2) allows taking credit as long as exceptional
> calculations are provided. What kind of study have you used to support your
> calculations?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ana
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Nick Caton" <ncaton at smithboucher.com>
> To: "Grayson Jordan" <grayson at castrucciarchitect.com>, "James Hansen" <
> JHANSEN at ghtltd.com>
> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:19:46 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Inputting Elevator and Cooking Loads
> onSub-Meters
>
> Hi Grayson,
>
>
>
> Everything you’ve described so far sounds do-able: you should be able to
> achieve what you’re describing so something less-than-obvious must be off…
>
>
>
> Here are some screenshots of a recent model I did showing my default meter
> EM1 with two sub-meters covering a ventilation system and (3) elevators. Do
> some comparisons and see if anything is set up differently.
>
>
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>
>
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>
> You could also help others help you by describing that error you’re seeing.
> Many times after encountering an error, if you open the BDL file in
> notepad, you can search for the text “ERROR” and that can help you track
> down the cause of the issue if you examine the building description language
> around that line. This sort of troubleshooting is deceptively easy to pick
> up, so don’t be afraid to get your hands dirty ;).
>
>
>
> Let us know how this shakes out for ya!
>
>
>
> ~Nick
>
>
>
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> *NICK CATON, E.I.T.***
>
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>
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>
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Grayson Jordan
> *Sent:* Friday, March 04, 2011 9:04 AM
> *To:* James Hansen
> *Cc:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] Inputting Elevator and Cooking Loads
> onSub-Meters
>
>
>
> I’m sorry – I’m a bit of a novice.
>
> I did try to assign both meters as sub-meters (by setting them up under the
> submeter tab of the EM1).
>
>
>
> I looked at BDL but couldn’t make sense of it.
>
>
>
> Any other guidance?
>
>
>
> Grayson Jordan, RA
>
> Associate Architect
>
>
>
> *Paul A. Castrucci, Architect*
>
> 179 Rivington St., Suite 1A
>
> New York, NY 10002
>
> voice: 212 254 7060 (ext 603)
>
> fax: 212 260 7199
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* James Hansen [mailto:JHANSEN at ghtltd.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, March 04, 2011 9:52 AM
> *To:* Grayson Jordan
> *Cc:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] Inputting Elevator and Cooking Loads on
> Sub-Meters
>
>
>
> Assign the sub-meter to EM1. Otherwise it will give you an error. Open up
> the BDL file to troubleshoot errors like this.
>
> -James
>
>
> On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:24 AM, "Grayson Jordan" <
> grayson at castrucciarchitect.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I am attempting to show elevator and cooking loads on sub-meters so that I
> can demonstrate energy use for each of these loads discreetly.
>
>
>
> I have attempted setting them up as direct loads, with corresponding
> schedule to the Misc. Loads.
>
>
>
> I have set them up as Sub-Meters and as Building Meters.
>
>
>
> eQuest allows me to set up one sub or building meter no problem. When I
> add the second, I get an error and eQuest won’t run the simulation.
>
>
>
> Any idea on how to troubleshoot?
>
>
>
> Grayson Jordan, RA
>
> Associate Architect
>
>
>
> *Paul A. Castrucci, Architect*
>
> 179 Rivington St., Suite 1A
>
> New York, NY 10002
>
> voice: 212 254 7060 (ext 603)
>
> fax: 212 260 7199
>
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Nick Caton" <ncaton at smithboucher.com>
> To: "anura perera" <perera.anura25 at gmail.com>, <
> equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:02:17 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Base Case building glazing
>
> Anura,
>
>
>
> Your baseline can “neglect” the balconies if you are considering them fixed
> shading devices (I would if they aren’t enclosed spaces)– this isn’t
> uncommon for building projections in hotels/apartments and the like.
>
>
>
> To both inquiries – how you’re to distribute baseline model windows when
> your WWR is >40% is worded differently depending on whether you’re under
> 90.1-2004 or 2007. Whether a space is conditioned or occupied has no
> bearing on how you should distribute fenestrations.
>
>
>
> Assuming you are under 40% gross WWR, simply use the same window
> distribution on your baseline as is used in the proposed model (i.e. don’t
> try to re-locate the windows).
>
>
>
> If your gross WWR is >40%, the options you have available to you depend on
> how Appendix Table G.3.1.5.c. is worded. 2007 tells you to use the same
> proportions on each orientation as the proposed, and 2004 tells you to use
> uniform bands distributed equally on all faces.
>
>
>
> If you were so inclined, you could define uniform bands representing the
> same per-orientation proportions under 2007, but to me that seems a
> laborious route that’s potentially disadvantageous to your performance
> rating. I’ve attached a discussion from a few weeks ago outlines exactly
> how I’d deal with a WWR > 40%, if you’re interested in a step-by-step.
>
>
>
> ~Nick
>
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>
> * *
>
> *NICK CATON, E.I.T.***
>
> PROJECT ENGINEER
>
> Smith & Boucher Engineers
>
> 25501 west valley parkway
>
> olathe ks 66061
>
> direct 913 344.0036
>
> fax 913 345.0617
>
> www.smithboucher.com* *
>
>
>
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *anura perera
> *Sent:* Friday, March 04, 2011 7:05 PM
> *To:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* [Equest-users] Base Case building glazing
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> I am in the process of modelling a multi story building using eQUEST. I
> would like to get your opinion on the followings.
>
>
>
> 1. The building has extended open balconies in each floor where this space
> can be used by occupants. Can I consider distributing windows for the base
> case as indicated in Appendix G, neglecting balconies?
>
>
>
> 2. The building also has a recessed unconditioned occupying zone in one of
> the intermidiate floors. How should one consider this space in distributing
> windows for the base case. How should the windows spread on the exterior
> surface? exclude recesses zone and place them on the exterior wall or spread
> continously as other zones including the recessed zone
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
>
> Anura
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Nick Caton" <ncaton at smithboucher.com>
> To: "Syed, Fareed" <Fareed.Syed at halcrowyolles.com>, <
> equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:10:01 -0600
> Subject: RE: [Equest-users] how to model 40% glazing on baseline
>
> There’s a few opinions on “best” approach… every case is unique, but here’s
> general my take:
>
>
>
> - Figure out your gross window-wall-ratio (WWR) for the whole
> building. Let’s say it’s *60%* for illustration.
>
> - If the WWR < 40%, your baseline can simply use the same window
> layout defined in the proposed model, and this would be a moot concern
>
> - If the WWR > 40%, divide the two to figure a window area
> “correction factor:” *40%/60% = .6667*
>
> - Assuming you’re post-wizards and in detailed edit mode: You’ll
> multiply the height dimension of all windows in your proposed model by that
> correction factor… (width works too, but height is generally better - I’ll
> explain)
>
> o Highlight a window under the Building shell tab
>
> o Switch to spreadsheet view
>
> o Highlight the column containing the window heights (use shift+arrow
> keys here)
>
> o Ctrl+c
>
> o Open excel
>
> o Ctrl+v in A1
>
> o In B1: =A1**.6667*
>
> o Drag that down to get all your new values
>
> o Rearrange your windows on your computer screen so you can see the
> excel column and the equest column side-by-side
>
> o You probably are using a common height for many/most windows. Right
> click any value -> edit user default – click the radio button that lets you
> define a number, and input that most common (reduced) value in your
> “factored” excel column
>
> o Right click any equest cell and press ‘r’ to restore default – value
> will turn blue to represent a ‘user-default’ (instead of a green DOE2
> default)
>
> o Ctrl+c that defaulted cell
>
> o Now start from the top and play accountant: enter the value, press
> the down arrow key, rinse and repeat. Anytime you see the common default
> value, just ctrl+v.
>
> - Once you’re done, the WWR of your baseline will be adjusted
> down to match 40%, and you’ll have maintained the same WWR on each
> orientation as your proposed model.
>
>
>
> If you’re building your baseline from the wizards on up, you could also
> achieve uniform bands on each face totaling 40% net by playing with the
> inputs in the right shell screens. This was once a prescribed approach that
> was removed from Appendix G’s wording in 90.1-2007, but it remains a viable
> approach as well. The potential disadvantage to this approach is you’re
> changing the individual WWR for each individual space (perhaps adding
> windows where there were none) – this may result in less of an “apples to
> apples” comparison between the models, which may help/hurt your relative
> performance.
>
>
>
> Cautionary note I throw out to those finding very large WWR’s: opaque
> spandrel glass constructions are not “vertical fenestrations” per the
> definitions in 90.1.
>
>
>
> Best of luck!
>
>
>
> ~Nick
>
>
>
> [image: cid:489575314 at 22072009-0ABB]**
>
> * *
>
> *NICK CATON, E.I.T.***
>
> PROJECT ENGINEER
>
> Smith & Boucher Engineers
>
> 25501 west valley parkway
>
> olathe ks 66061
>
> direct 913 344.0036
>
> fax 913 345.0617
>
> www.smithboucher.com* *
>
>
>
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Syed, Fareed
> *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2011 3:11 PM
> *To:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* [Equest-users] how to model 40% glazing on baseline
>
>
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> Can anyone please let me know how to model 40% glass on the baseline
> design?
>
>
>
> In my proposed design I used customized glass as there is 100% glass on
> north and south.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: RJTHEACMAN at aol.com
> To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 13:46:15 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: [Equest-users] Exterior Facade Lighting
> I have created an exterior lighting system under the tab lighting systems
> but I am not sure how to assign a schedule to this system. The lighting will
> be controlled by a photocell.
>
> Richard Dominick
> TEC Engineers, LLC.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Steven Savich" <ssavich at systemswestengineers.com>
> To: <RJTHEACMAN at aol.com>
> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 11:00:26 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Exterior Facade Lighting
>
> Richard,
>
>
>
> First, which version of equest are you using?
>
>
>
> If it's a newer version (think this was added in 3.63), then you can use
> the photocell override keyword (excerpt from the doe2 manual below). I
> believe you'll need to add this in the .inp file, as I don't believe there's
> a way to do this from the interface.
>
> If you're using an older version, you're stuck creating more complicated
> schedules. In the past, I've accomplished this by creating a fraction
> schedule for each month with the average sunrise/sunset times.
>
>
>
> Steven
>
>
>
> Volume 6: New Features > Introduction to New Features > Photocell Override
> of a Schedule > Building Description Language Changes > SCHEDULE command:
> PHOTOCELL-CTRL
>
> Accepts a code-word specifying whether the hourly value in the referenced
> DAY-SCHEDULE can be overridden either ON (value = 1.0) or OFF ( value = 0.0)
> according to whether it is day or night.
>
> DAY-OFF Forces the hourly schedule value to be 0.0
> whenever the sun is up.
>
> DAY-ON Forces the hourly schedule value to be 1.0
> whenever the sun is up.
>
> NIGHT-OFF Forces the hourly schedule value to be 0.0
> whenver the sun is down.
>
> NIGHT-ON Forces the hourly schedule value to be 1.0
> whenever the sun is down.
>
> For example, assume lighting in a parking lot is to be on from dusk until
> 11 p.m. The earliest the lights are allowed to illuminate is 4 p.m., but
> will not actually start until the sun is down:
>
> "Parking Lot DSch" = DAY-SCHEDULE-PD
> TYPE = ON/OFF
> VALUES = ( 0., 0., 0., 0., 0., 0.,
> 0., 0., 0., 0., 0., 0.,
> 0., 0., 0., 1., 1., 1.,
> 1., 1., 1., 1., 1., 0. )
>
> "Parking Lot WSch" = WEEK-SCHEDULE-PD
> TYPE = ON/OFF
> DAY-SCHEDULES = ("Parking Lot DSch")
> ..
>
> "Parking Lot Sch" = SCHEDULE-PD
> TYPE = ON/OFF
> PHOTOCELL-CTRL = DAY-OFF
> MONTH = (12)
> DAY = (31)
> WEEK-SCHEDULES = ("Parking Lot WSch")
> ..
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *
> RJTHEACMAN at aol.com
> *Sent:* Monday, March 07, 2011 10:46 AM
> *To:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* [Equest-users] Exterior Facade Lighting
>
>
>
> I have created an exterior lighting system under the tab lighting systems
> but I am not sure how to assign a schedule to this system. The lighting will
> be controlled by a photocell.
>
>
>
> Richard Dominick
>
> TEC Engineers, LLC.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Nick Caton" <ncaton at smithboucher.com>
> To: <ssavich at systemswestengineers.com>, <RJTHEACMAN at aol.com>
> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 13:20:02 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Exterior Facade Lighting
>
> Hi guys,
>
>
>
> Richard’s question suggests he may not be in detailed mode yet. You will
> need to wrap up Wizard mode (SD/DD) if you haven’t already – do enter the
> installed kW for your exterior lighting system(s).
>
>
>
> That load (kW) will show up as a direct exterior load on your electrical
> meter (under ‘utility and economics’ tab) once in detailed mode. You assign
> a schedule there, and can break your exterior load into multiple loads if
> you have different controls /scheduling to model (i.e. perimeter lighting
> turns off at midnight, other lighting is all night, garage lighting is 24/7,
> etc..).
>
>
>
> Attached is a mailing list discussion where I basically shared a series of
> schedules that anyone can use (in eQuest versions 3.63 and onwards, as
> Steven says!). If you paste those schedules into an .inp file that you keep
> handy, you can simply import them into your current and future projects,
> then assign those schedules via dropdown selection box at your meter.
> Pretty simple ;).
>
>
>
> If you need more help importing, search for my name to find an importing
> tutorial in the archives.
>
>
>
> Best of luck,
>
>
>
> ~Nick
>
>
>
> PS: the DOE2 manual entry copied below is a little misleading – if you set
> it up as an ON/OFF schedule as suggested, you won’t be able to select that
> schedule for a load assigned to a meter… the workaround is to use type
> MULTIPLIER per the attached, and PHOTOCELL-CTRL will behave properly ;).
>
>
>
> [image: cid:489575314 at 22072009-0ABB]**
>
> * *
>
> *NICK CATON, E.I.T.***
>
> PROJECT ENGINEER
>
> Smith & Boucher Engineers
>
> 25501 west valley parkway
>
> olathe ks 66061
>
> direct 913 344.0036
>
> fax 913 345.0617
>
> www.smithboucher.com* *
>
>
>
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Steven Savich
> *Sent:* Monday, March 07, 2011 1:00 PM
> *To:* RJTHEACMAN at aol.com
> *Cc:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] Exterior Facade Lighting
>
>
>
> Richard,
>
>
>
> First, which version of equest are you using?
>
>
>
> If it's a newer version (think this was added in 3.63), then you can use
> the photocell override keyword (excerpt from the doe2 manual below). I
> believe you'll need to add this in the .inp file, as I don't believe there's
> a way to do this from the interface.
>
> If you're using an older version, you're stuck creating more complicated
> schedules. In the past, I've accomplished this by creating a fraction
> schedule for each month with the average sunrise/sunset times.
>
>
>
> Steven
>
>
>
> Volume 6: New Features > Introduction to New Features > Photocell Override
> of a Schedule > Building Description Language Changes > SCHEDULE command:
> PHOTOCELL-CTRL
>
> Accepts a code-word specifying whether the hourly value in the referenced
> DAY-SCHEDULE can be overridden either ON (value = 1.0) or OFF ( value = 0.0)
> according to whether it is day or night.
>
> DAY-OFF Forces the hourly schedule value to be 0.0
> whenever the sun is up.
>
> DAY-ON Forces the hourly schedule value to be 1.0
> whenever the sun is up.
>
> NIGHT-OFF Forces the hourly schedule value to be 0.0
> whenver the sun is down.
>
> NIGHT-ON Forces the hourly schedule value to be 1.0
> whenever the sun is down.
>
> For example, assume lighting in a parking lot is to be on from dusk until
> 11 p.m. The earliest the lights are allowed to illuminate is 4 p.m., but
> will not actually start until the sun is down:
>
> "Parking Lot DSch" = DAY-SCHEDULE-PD
> TYPE = ON/OFF
> VALUES = ( 0., 0., 0., 0., 0., 0.,
> 0., 0., 0., 0., 0., 0.,
> 0., 0., 0., 1., 1., 1.,
> 1., 1., 1., 1., 1., 0. )
>
> "Parking Lot WSch" = WEEK-SCHEDULE-PD
> TYPE = ON/OFF
> DAY-SCHEDULES = ("Parking Lot DSch")
> ..
>
> "Parking Lot Sch" = SCHEDULE-PD
> TYPE = ON/OFF
> PHOTOCELL-CTRL = DAY-OFF
> MONTH = (12)
> DAY = (31)
> WEEK-SCHEDULES = ("Parking Lot WSch")
> ..
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *
> RJTHEACMAN at aol.com
> *Sent:* Monday, March 07, 2011 10:46 AM
> *To:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* [Equest-users] Exterior Facade Lighting
>
>
>
> I have created an exterior lighting system under the tab lighting systems
> but I am not sure how to assign a schedule to this system. The lighting will
> be controlled by a photocell.
>
>
>
> Richard Dominick
>
> TEC Engineers, LLC.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Nick Caton" <ncaton at smithboucher.com>
> To: <bfountain at greensim.com>
> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:09:59 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] PHOTOCELL-CTRL problem
>
> Thanks Brian!
>
> I simultaneously figured out that PHOTOCELL-CTRL is in fact compatible
> with MULTIPLIER type schedules. The root of my problem was that using
> ON/OFF as with the help file's example meant I couldn't select that
> schedule to apply to my external direct load within my "exterior
> lighting" electrical meter (at least within eQuest).
>
> In the spirit of avoiding misinformation in the archive, here are my
> corrected schedules for anyone else that is facing this in the future:
>
> ----------DAY
>
> "ExtLtg Dusk/Dawn DaySch" = DAY-SCHEDULE-PD
> TYPE = MULTIPLIER
> VALUES = ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,
> 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,
> 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,
> 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 )
> ..
> "ExtLtg Dusk/12AM DaySch" = DAY-SCHEDULE-PD
> TYPE = MULTIPLIER
> VALUES = ( 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
> 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1,
> 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,
> 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 )
> ..
> "ExtLtg Security DaySch" = DAY-SCHEDULE-PD
> TYPE = MULTIPLIER
> VALUES = ( 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
> 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
> 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
> 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 )
> ..
>
> ----------WEEK
>
> "ExtLtg Dusk/Dawn WeekSch" = WEEK-SCHEDULE-PD
> TYPE = MULTIPLIER
> DAY-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Dusk/Dawn DaySch" )
> ..
> "ExtLtg Dusk/12AM WeekSch" = WEEK-SCHEDULE-PD
> TYPE = MULTIPLIER
> DAY-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Dusk/12AM DaySch" )
> ..
> "ExtLtg Security WeekSch" = WEEK-SCHEDULE-PD
> TYPE = MULTIPLIER
> DAY-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Security DaySch" )
> ..
>
> ----------ANNUAL
>
> "ExtLtg Dusk/Dawn AnnSch" = SCHEDULE-PD
> TYPE = MULTIPLIER
> PHOTOCELL-CTRL = DAY-OFF
> MONTH = ( 12 )
> DAY = ( 31 )
> WEEK-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Dusk/Dawn WeekSch" )
> ..
> "ExtLtg Dusk/12AM AnnSch" = SCHEDULE-PD
> TYPE = MULTIPLIER
> PHOTOCELL-CTRL = DAY-OFF
> MONTH = ( 12 )
> DAY = ( 31 )
> WEEK-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Dusk/12AM WeekSch" )
> ..
> "ExtLtg Security AnnSch" = SCHEDULE-PD
> TYPE = MULTIPLIER
> MONTH = ( 12 )
> DAY = ( 31 )
> WEEK-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Security WeekSch" )
> ..
>
> NICK CATON, E.I.T.
> PROJECT ENGINEER
> 25501 west valley parkway
> olathe ks 66061
> direct 913 344.0036
> fax 913 345.0617
> Check out our new web-site @ www.smithboucher.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: B. Fountain [mailto:bfountain at greensim.com <bfountain at greensim.com>]
>
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:04 PM
> To: Nick Caton
> Cc: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> Subject: Re: PHOTOCELL-CTRL problem
>
> Nick,
>
> Yes, you can edit the exterior lighting fractional schedule with the
> photocell keywords. You need to add this in the .inp -- it is not
> currently in the eQUEST interface.
>
> "Ext ltg sch" = SCHEDULE-PD
> TYPE = FRACTION
> PHOTOCELL-CTRL = DAY-OFF
> MONTH = ( 12 )
> DAY = ( 31 )
> WEEK-SCHEDULES = ( "ext ltg wk sch" )
> ..
>
> Just tried it and it works great.
>
> Brian
>
> > I'm at the point of troubleshooting the application of PHOTOCELL-CTRL
> to
> > my exterior lighting loads.
> >
> >
> >
> > My lighting loads are accounted under an electrical meter as shown on
> > the attached image.
> >
> >
> >
> > The help file and previous discussions on this mailing list seem to
> > indicate that the use of PHOTOCELL-CTRL requires that the referenced
> > schedule be of the type "ON/OFF."
> >
> >
> >
> > The conflict is that a schedule applied to an exterior direct load
> under
> > an electrical meter must be of the type "MULTIPLIER." If I set up my
> > schedules as "ON/OFF" per the PHOTOCELL-CTRL directions, they don't
> > appear in the dropdown list to be selected in the attached screengrab.
> >
> >
> >
> > I want to apply PHOTOCELL-CTRL behavior for my exterior light
> > schedules... can anyone point me in the right direction to make this
> > happen? Is it possible PHOTOCELL-CTRL just works when the schedule is
> > of the type "MULTIPLIER?"
> >
> >
> >
> > Attached is the the DOE2 help file entry in its entirety for
> reference.
> >
> >
> > Also for reference, my 3 Exterior Lighting Schedules look like this at
> > the moment:
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------DAY
> >
> >
> >
> > "ExtLtg Dusk/Dawn DaySch" = DAY-SCHEDULE-PD
> >
> > TYPE = ON/OFF
> >
> > VALUES = ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,
> >
> > 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,
> >
> > 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,
> >
> > 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 )
> >
> > ..
> >
> > "ExtLtg Dusk/12AM DaySch" = DAY-SCHEDULE-PD
> >
> > TYPE = ON/OFF
> >
> > VALUES = ( 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
> >
> > 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1,
> >
> > 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,
> >
> > 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 )
> >
> > ..
> >
> > "ExtLtg Security DaySch" = DAY-SCHEDULE-PD
> >
> > TYPE = ON/OFF
> >
> > VALUES = ( 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
> >
> > 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
> >
> > 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
> >
> > 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, )
> >
> > ..
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------WEEK
> >
> >
> >
> > "ExtLtg Dusk/Dawn WeekSch" = WEEK-SCHEDULE-PD
> >
> > TYPE = ON/OFF
> >
> > DAY-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Dusk/Dawn DaySch" )
> >
> > ..
> >
> > "ExtLtg Dusk/12AM WeekSch" = WEEK-SCHEDULE-PD
> >
> > TYPE = ON/OFF
> >
> > DAY-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Dusk/12AM DaySch" )
> >
> > ..
> >
> > "ExtLtg Security WeekSch" = WEEK-SCHEDULE-PD
> >
> > TYPE = ON/OFF
> >
> > DAY-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Security DaySch" )
> >
> > ..
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------ANNUAL
> >
> >
> >
> > "ExtLtg Dusk/Dawn AnnSch" = SCHEDULE-PD
> >
> > TYPE = ON/OFF
> >
> > PHOTOCELL-CTRL = DAY-OFF
> >
> > MONTH = ( 12 )
> >
> > DAY = ( 31 )
> >
> > WEEK-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Dusk/Dawn WeekSch" )
> >
> > ..
> >
> > "ExtLtg Dusk/12AM AnnSch" = SCHEDULE-PD
> >
> > TYPE = ON/OFF
> >
> > PHOTOCELL-CTRL = DAY-OFF
> >
> > MONTH = ( 12 )
> >
> > DAY = ( 31 )
> >
> > WEEK-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Dusk/12AM WeekSch" )
> >
> > ..
> >
> > "ExtLtg Security AnnSch" = SCHEDULE-PD
> >
> > TYPE = ON/OFF
> >
> > MONTH = ( 12 )
> >
> > DAY = ( 31 )
> >
> > WEEK-SCHEDULES = ( "ExtLtg Security WeekSch" )
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > NICK CATON, E.I.T.
> >
> > PROJECT ENGINEER
> >
> > 25501 west valley parkway
> >
> > olathe ks 66061
> >
> > direct 913 344.0036
> >
> > fax 913 345.0617
> >
> > Check out our new web-site @ www.smithboucher.com
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Brian Fountain [mailto:bfountain at greensim.com<bfountain at greensim.com>
> ]
> > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 9:12 PM
> > To: Nick Caton
> > Cc: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> > Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Editing External lighting Schedule
> >
> >
> >
> > You mean something like this (from the new features help file)...
> >
> >
> > PHOTOCELL-CTRL
> >
> >
> > Accepts a code-word specifying whether the hourly value in the
> > referenced DAY-SCHEDULE can be overridden either ON (value = 1.0) or
> OFF
> > ( value = 0.0) according to whether it is day or night.
> >
> > DAY-OFF Forces the hourly schedule value to be 0.0
> > whenever the sun is up.
> >
> > DAY-ON Forces the hourly schedule value to be
> 1.0
> > whenever the sun is up.
> >
> > NIGHT-OFF Forces the hourly schedule value to be 0.0
> > whenver the sun is down.
> >
> > NIGHT-ON Forces the hourly schedule value to be 1.0
> > whenever the sun is down.
> >
> > For example, assume lighting in a parking lot is to be on from dusk
> > until 11 p.m. The earliest the lights are allowed to illuminate is 4
> > p.m., but will not actually start until the sun is down:
> >
> > "Parking Lot DSch" = DAY-SCHEDULE-PD
> > TYPE = ON/OFF
> > VALUES = ( 0., 0., 0., 0., 0., 0.,
> > 0., 0., 0., 0., 0., 0.,
> > 0., 0., 0., 1., 1., 1.,
> > 1., 1., 1., 1., 1., 0. )
> >
> > "Parking Lot WSch" = WEEK-SCHEDULE-PD
> > TYPE = ON/OFF
> > DAY-SCHEDULES = ("Parking Lot DSch")
> > ..
> >
> > "Parking Lot Sch" = SCHEDULE-PD
> > TYPE = ON/OFF
> > PHOTOCELL-CTRL = DAY-OFF
> > MONTH = (12)
> > DAY = (31)
> > WEEK-SCHEDULES = ("Parking Lot WSch")
> > ..
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Nick Caton wrote:
> >
> > With regard to exterior lighting, It occurred to me today that eQuest
> > currently has the capability to determine the operating hours of
> > interior lights based on an amount of daylight, specific to the hours
> of
> > daylight occurring during the year for a given location, using the
> > daylighting functions...
> >
> > How much of a stretch/challenge would it be to accurately determine
> how
> > often photocell-controlled exterior lights are operating through the
> > year based on available daylight outside of the building??
> >
> > It might be an awesome feature to consider for future wizards: where
> one
> > simply defines the exterior lighting wattage, and could additionally
> > designates realistic timeclock/photocell controls, such as "on when it
> > turns dark and off after 2AM."
> >
> > NICK CATON, E.I.T.
> > PROJECT ENGINEER
> > 25501 west valley parkway
> > olathe ks 66061
> > direct 913 344.0036
> > fax 913 345.0617
> > Check out our new web-site @ www.smithboucher.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [
> > mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org<equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>]
> On Behalf Of
> > Matutinovic, Luka
> > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 9:03 AM
> > To: John Aulbach; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org; nate murray
> > Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Editing External lighting Schedule
> >
> > I had limited success in editing the Wizard schedules by adjusting the
> > max and min thresholds on the vertical axis and the start and end
> hours
> > along the top axis. My understanding is that eQuest generates those
> > schedules based on the building type definition at the beginning of
> the
> > shell wizard. I had many headaches trying to edit the schedule after
> I
> > realized I selected the wrong building type, especially when dealing
> > with multiple shells. I inevitably end up using John's approach once
> in
> > the detailed mode.
> >
> > When people are creating models for LEED, do you use the schedules
> found
> > in the back of the 90.1 User's Manual, or do you create your own
> > schedules? How has the USGBC reviewed this issue since according to
> App
> > G, schedule creation is up to the designer and the "rating authority"?
> > It would seem to me that the USGBC wouldn't care as long as you use
> > schedules that are reasonable for the building type and anticipated
> > operation, and that the reference building uses the same ones (unless
> > daylight controls or demand controlled ventilation is being dealt with
> > through schedules and not simulation software directly).
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Luka Matutinovic
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [
> > mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org<equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>]
> On Behalf Of John
> > Aulbach
> > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 1:47 AM
> > To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org; nate murray
> > Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Editing External lighting Schedule
> >
> >
> > Nate:
> >
> > The only way I know to edit such schedules is to change the mode to
> > Detailed Edit, then make the schedule changes.
> >
> > If you try to go back to the Wizard mode, those changes will be
> deleted.
> >
> > John Aulbach
> >
> > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, nate murray <natemurr at gmail.com>
> > <mailto:natemurr at gmail.com <natemurr at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > From: nate murray <natemurr at gmail.com>
> > <mailto:natemurr at gmail.com <natemurr at gmail.com>>
> > Subject: [Equest-users] Editing External lighting Schedule
> > To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 5:59 PM
> > Hi,
> > I want to make the external lighting schedule so that there is a
> >
> > little bit smaller loads in april and october then the rest of
> > the
> > months. I see the monthly profiles on the External lighting
> > screen in
> > Design Wizard, but how do I go about editing those monthly
> > profiles...if that's what I should do.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --
> > Nathan Murray
> >
> >
> >
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