[Equest-users] Geometry Questions

Nick Caton ncaton at smithboucher.com
Tue May 31 12:04:50 PDT 2011


Hi Patrick!

 

1.       Make the "slice" 1 inch wide (making the omitted office space a
negligible area), and make the "cut" faces adiabatic in the second
wizard screen (right click the perimeter wall edge), after defining
zones.  This avoids extra envelope surface area/loads.

2.       I would make a second shell if the footprint and zoning is
significantly different.  For each shell, specify 1 floor above or below
grade at the first  wizard screen.

 

Rob's suggestion is a good alternative to consider and one I've used
before for different reasons:  You will end up with interior walls for
the "courtyard" facing zones, as he's describing, which means there are
extra steps to create exterior walls/windows after the fact in detailed.
I personally find the "slice" approach a time saver overall since it
tricks the wizard into automating all the actual exterior surfaces...
ultimately the "right" approach is whatever you're most comfortable
with.

 

An extra caution looking elsewhere in your screengrab, from personal
experience: always be careful to lock to your CAD vertices!  "Close
enough" can trip you up down the road...

 

~Nick

 

 

NICK CATON, E.I.T.

PROJECT ENGINEER

Smith & Boucher Engineers

25501 west valley parkway

olathe ks 66061

direct 913 344.0036

fax 913 345.0617

www.smithboucher.com 

 

From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Rob
Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:51 PM
To: Patrick Keeney
Cc: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Geometry Questions

 

Only way to model two different floor plans is to have two separate
shells.  

 

For your other problem, if you trace the outside of the building, and
then when creating your zones leave the interior courtyard empty then
the wizard will not create any space/zones there.  Once in the design
mode, delete your interior walls around the courtyard and create your
exterior walls in their places.  This is the easiest method that I have
been able to come up with thus far in my experiences.

 

Rob

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Patrick Keeney <
38keeney at cardinalmail.cua.edu> wrote:

Hello All,

 

I am tryinig to model a 2 story building has a below grade storage floor
and an above grade office area.  The office area is doughnut shaped with
an internal courtyard.  My questions are:

 

1. How would I model the internal courtyard?  I have created an AutoCAD
drawing as a background image to trace.  However, because eQuest
requires you to set the vertice points counter-clockwise, I am unable to
enclose the courtyard without missing a portion of the outer office
space.  See attached image for what I mean.  Any advice?

 

2. For the below grade portion of the building, is there anyway to model
this floor without creating an entirely new "shell" within the wizard.
Since the below grade footprint is different from the upper story
footprint, I am not sure how to model the upper and lower stories
differently without creating an entirely separate "shell."

 

 

Any help would be great.  Thanks.

-- 
Patrick J Keeney
MArch-MSSD Candidate
410-299-5627


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