[Equest-users] 90.1 Baseline Envelope Interpretation

[Maria Karpman]

Nick and Daniel,

 

On a high level, Appendix G baseline is a virtual building configured as
described in Appendix G and compliant with requirements of 90.1 applicable
to this configuration.  In order to comply with 90.1, major renovation
projects are generally not required to retrofit envelope so that it meets
the current requirements of ASHRAE 90.1, which explains provision of
G3.1.5.f to use existing envelope in the baseline. However, when renovation
involves change in space conditioning category, e.g. an old semiheated
warehouse is converted into an office building, 90.1 requires that all
systems including envelope are brought into compliance with the current
provisions:

 

4.1.1.5 Changes in Space Conditioning. Whenever

unconditioned or semiheated spaces in a building are converted

to conditioned spaces, such conditioned spaces shall

be brought into compliance with all the applicable requirements

of this standard that would apply to the building envelope,

heating, ventilating, air-conditioning, service water

heating, power, lighting, and other systems and equipment of

the space as if the building were new.

 

It looks like Daniel's project is subject to this requirement. I don't know
what's LEED policy on that, but a few modeling-based incentive programs that
I am involved with do not allow using existing condition as envelope
baseline for projects that involve changes in space conditioning. Otherwise
they get incentive windfall for doing what they are required to do in order
to meet energy code (in states where energy code is aligned with 90.1). For
a LEED project, I would make sure that systems other than envelope (e.g.
HVAC, lighting, etc.) are efficient enough to meet EAc1 target in case
envelope baseline is questioned by LEED reviewers. 

 

Thanks,

 

Maria

 

From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Nick Caton
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 10:36 AM
To: Daniel Kaler; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] 90.1 Baseline Envelope Interpretation

 

Hey Daniel,

 

Hmm - I have never been called out one way or the other regarding existing
envelopes under formal review so I can't say with certainty. I'll agree your
situation seems tricky!

 

There's a line within Table G3.1, section 5 baseline column, that also reads
"Opaque assemblies used for alterations shall conform with Section 5.1.3."
"Alterations" is a vaguely written glossary term which could be read to
apply to your wall upgrades as described.

 

5.1.3  broadly says all requirements in section 5 for insulation, air
leakage and fenestrations apply to the alterations.  

 

Reading that together with G3.1.5.f, your baseline alteration walls should
reflect the pre-existing building envelope in every regard, excepting any
prescriptive/mandatory requirements of section 5 regarding insulation, air
leakage and fenestrations. This assumes none of the 5.1.3 exceptions apply.
This interpretation would permit things like WWR and infiltration rates to
differ from the proposed envelope.

 

I would not advise going hog-wild with differing infiltration rates however.
Garage doors may generally leak more than the proposed construction - but
use and document conservative numbers that make sense for an "always closed"
door (with weatherseal  if applicable) per the mandatory infiltration
requirements.  If you assume the baseline doors are regularly opened by
mechanics in the baseline, you're straying from the "same occupants, same
scheduling" theme repeated through the rest of Appendix G.

 

Hope those thoughts help!

 

~Nick

 

cid:489575314 at 22072009-0ABB

 

NICK CATON, P.E.

SENIOR ENGINEER

 

Smith & Boucher Engineers

25501 west valley parkway, suite 200

olathe, ks 66061

direct 913.344.0036

fax 913.345.0617

www.smithboucher.com 

 

From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
Kaler
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:40 PM
To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Equest-users] 90.1 Baseline Envelope Interpretation

 

Hi All,

 

I am having trouble fully comprehending ASHRAE 90.1 Appendix G, referring to
existing building envelopes. The building I am modeling was previously a
maintenance shop with practically zero insulation. In addition to the basic
building envelope, the southern facing exposure is essentially 4 large
garage doors.

 

The entire envelope was gutted and replaced with a brick/concrete wall and
corresponding insulation. In addition to the envelope upgrade, the entire
interior was remodeled to be utilized as an office building. Appendix G
leads to me to believe that I should be modeling the building envelope as if
the garage doors are still in place. i.e. the offices will have a garage
door modeled as the wall type with a significant amount of infiltration.
This seems counter-intuitive to me, but I want to verify that I am doing it
correctly.

 

Any input would be helpful, Thanks.

 

Daniel Kaler

Energy Engineer, EIT

 

 

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