[Equest-users] How to import 3D model

[Peter Hillermann]

Sudheera,

 

Starting from scratch is your best option. You are in a tough spot.

 

Thanks,

 

PETER HILLERMANN

 

peterh at westallarchitects.com

 

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From: Sivakumar, Sudheera [mailto:Sudheera.Sivakumar at stantec.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 5:15 PM
To: Peter Hillermann; 'Sami, Vikram'; 'Adam Barker'; 'm zahid'; 'e quest'
Subject: RE: [Equest-users] How to import 3D model

 

What do you guys think about how to tackle the situation , when the
Architect changes the floor plan considerably in the middle of the project
design and not enough budget available to create the model ( 7 storey
building with different floor plates)  from scratch in the wizard? Going
through the messages, creating from scratch is the best option. Am I wrong?

 

Thanks

Sudheera Sivakumar, 

 

From: Peter Hillermann [mailto:peterh at westallarchitects.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 7:08 AM
To: 'Sami, Vikram'; 'Adam Barker'; 'm zahid'; 'e quest'
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] How to import 3D model

 

I like this conversation cause it is one that I have battled with for a long
time.

 

I'm going to respond on top of the previous comments in saying that it all
depends on your comfort with software and 3D modeling. As below I agree with
Vikram that at the moment it is easier to just model the project directly in
eQuest and not import at all. Let me however tell you that I have built
models in eQuest, Vasari, REVIT and Ecotect and they all work fine as long
as you understand the basic principles of computer modeling. Vasari is
definitely not ready for prime time however you can use it as your
integrated modeler between eQuest and REVIT.

 

The one main issue that I have run into and it is working as an architect
and coordinating with our engineer that I have found out that architectural
REVIT models with gbXML information looks totally different than the zoning
model for an HVAC layout used in eQuest. The ways these models are
constructed are total different even though the exterior skin might look the
same.

 

I've done this before but I have attached images of all the softwares to
show the model.

 

Just stick with the wizard for now unless the geometries are extremely
complex.

 

Thanks,

 

PETER HILLERMANN

 

peterh at westallarchitects.com

 

westall

architects

3404 pierce drive

chamblee, georgia 30341

 

o 770.458.4113

c 678.898.2936

 

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From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Sami,
Vikram
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 9:23 AM
To: Adam Barker; 'm zahid'; 'e quest'
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] How to import 3D model

 

// all things considered it seems that importing 3D geometry is not that big
of a timesaver compared to the design wizard//

 

I agree. The argument is that with importing from Revit there is already a
3d model available. The issue normally is that there is too much information
in the Revit model and most often it needs a LOT of clean up. Its
potentially easy if you are a person with really fantastic model management
skills (I haven't met one yet).

 

 

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Sustainable Design Analyst

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From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Adam Barker
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 9:13 AM
To: 'm zahid'; 'e quest'
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] How to import 3D model

 

One potential workflow is Revit > Ecotect > eQuest. 

 

If you google exporting Revit to Ecotect there are several videos / step by
step instructions to show you what you need to do to prepare the model. It
mainly has to do with how you define rooms, which become your thermal zones.
However, Ecotect to eQuest I haven't been able to do very successfully.
There seems to be some problems with exporting the geometry and zones
properly (which is really the major and some would say only benefit). The
only thing I was able to import were wall constructions, which I would
rather define in eQuest anyways. I haven't been able to find a thorough
explanation of what to do in Ecotect to prepare your geometry for eQuest.
FYI, Ecotect also exports to gbXML, Energy Plus, Radiance, etc.

 

Another workflow is Vasari > eQuest. Vasari is an, as of now, free Autodesk
program in trial stages that is basically Revit combined with some basic
DOE2 based energy modeling capability, really just for comparing different
scenarios in early design. In my opinion this software is not ready for
creating more complex models as I found creating the zones lacks the
flexibility most models would need - The software will automatically create
zones based on ASHRAE 90.1 perimeter set backs, 1 per floor, etc. Unless you
have an open office plan, this is probably not what you need. You can define
your zones manually, but not easily in my opinion.
http://labs.autodesk.com/utilities/vasari/ - if you're interested.

 

I've tried to look into this a few times now, and all things considered it
seems that importing 3D geometry is not that big of a timesaver compared to
the design wizard, if at all. If anyone has experience with these workflows,
I would be grateful to hear it.

 

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From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of m zahid
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 2:46 AM
To: e quest
Subject: [Equest-users] How to import 3D model

 

hi  
 
Happy New Year to All. Does anybody know the any software from which we can
import 3D model into eQuest.   

 

thanks 

 
zahid 

 


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