[Equest-users] is there a way back from this error?

Nick Caton ncaton at smithboucher.com
Mon Jul 9 12:06:14 PDT 2012
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FWIW, I've observed the same error on smallish models with detailed geometry edits.  I don't think the error is size-dependant (though size may be a contributing factor to the difficulties in getting the 3D views to play nicely).  I know the same error comes up from wizard-borne pitched roof inputs on occasion.

I have the same sense as others of this being generally erroneous if no other errors or warnings occur on loading/simulation (I'd certainly double-check for my own model).  My theory is the error is specifically getting at a difficulty in rendering the 3D view - which is to say there is zero effect in regards to the actual simulation/results.  In other cases, I've observed models with this "triangulation" error partially render the 3D view, with some surfaces not being drawn at all, but still existing in the component tree with all appropriate ties.

Oh and here's a related post from Mr. Criswell some time ago for further reassurance:  http://www.gard.com/ml/bldg-sim-archive/msg04131.html

~Nick

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From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Nikola Kravik
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 1:32 PM
To: Sami, Vikram; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Cc: Shai Shaul
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] is there a way back from this error?

Hi Sami,

Yes, large model with lots of custom polygons......the message is gone, project loads but I still can't view the 3-D, I see the shells only in 2-D.
*I got several responses from various users on the camera reset, latest being from Josh Greenfield that I'm pasting it below, since interesting thing-Josh can see the 3-D pix from the zip file I sent, but I can't.....go figure?!?

Anything else I can try on my end?
It's weird that Umesh and Josh can see the 3-D from model I sent and I'm not able to.

Best,
N
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From: Josh Greenfield [mailto:JGreenfield at primerachicago.com]
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 11:17 AM
To: Nikola Kravik
Subject: RE: [Equest-users] is there a way back from this error?

The file took a long time to open for me, but the 3D came right up...

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...maybe try saving the .PD2/.BDL/.INP in a new folder with just those 3 files and try opening.


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From: Nikola Kravik [mailto:NKravik at willdan.com]
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 1:06 PM
To: Josh Greenfield
Subject: FW: [Equest-users] is there a way back from this error?

Josh,
Found your posting below on the 3-D fun in equest, but didn't work. Anything else you can add before I go back and try to recreate?
Model runs/loads but I still can't see the 3-D in equest-it's not even an option.
Thx,
Nikola

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Lost 3-D Geometry Model
If "Reset Camera" AND closing/re-opening doesn't work...close
eQuest...open your .PD2 file in Notepad and look at lines 13
(ClippingRange), 14 (FocalPoint) and 15 (Position)...
Proj "Peck_Baseline"
ProgramVersion = "eQUEST 3.63.6510"
BDBaseVersion = 24
ProductCode = "eQUEST"
WeatherFile = "TMY2\CHICAGIL.bin"
CreateDate = 1255555885
ModDate = 1262904952
RunDate = 1262903881
LibraryFile = "eQ_Lib.dat"
ActiveMode = 0
InputModule = 1
UseCameraData = 1
ClippingRange = ( 400.541, 1731.6 )
FocalPoint = ( -89.875, 25.375, 18.0293 )
Position = ( -807.176, 648.915, 295.315 )
If any of the values in there are HUGE (probably with exponents) then
just change them to zero...save...re-open eQuest. These values are just
used by the eQuest camera so you're not changing any shell positions or
anything.
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From: Sami, Vikram [mailto:Vikram.Sami at perkinswill.com]
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 11:22 AM
To: Nikola Kravik; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org<mailto:equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
Subject: RE: is there a way back from this error?

Nikola,

Don't worry about it - I've had that message come up before. It didn't affect anything - it was a pretty large model with a number of custom polygons - is that what you have too?


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From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org<mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org> [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Nikola Kravik
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 4:12 PM
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Subject: [Equest-users] is there a way back from this error?

Hi,
I get the following error multiple times when trying to finish a retirement center with multiple bld's, shells and units....equest runs a long time.
Is there a way to fix it or I go back to my previous files to retrieve left over info? The 3D is not generating looks like adding last bld's did it...
Thanks,
Nikola
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D. 925.416.4228
C. 925.719.5883
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