[Equest-users] fishpond

[Cristian Salvador Jara Toro]

Thanks to all for your quick answers!

I think  I will go for calculate the heating and sensible loads, and look
at ashrae handbook for references, then, of course, I´ll try to find some
information about state-of-art in aquaculture facilities.

I thought to calculate ventilation loads using as reference a natatorium
surface, but I`m unable to recognize the quantities of fish, or density
(fishes/m3).

It`s supossed to be an "quarantine fishpond" (salmons), but I don´t have
too much information about it. I will ask for more detailed information and
I will back here.

Thanks!



On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Arpan Bakshi <arpanbakshi at gmail.com> wrote:

> We had a recent project with exterior fish ponds looking at their effect
> on microclimate. Any experience w/ this condition?
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> Arpan
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> On May 3, 2012, at 11:46 AM, "Mike Hupel" <mhupel at aegiseng.ca> wrote:
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>  Bill beat me to it.  Your ventilation load would be calculated as if it
> were a natatorium using total surface area, temperature and evaporative
> rates. Then once you get that information you can model the ventilation
> rates and make-up.  ****
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> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Bishop, Bill
> *Sent:* May-03-12 11:33 AM
> *To:* Cristian Salvador Jara Toro; <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] fishpond****
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> You can model it but you will need to calculate the latent and sensible
> loads yourself, at least if you are using eQUEST. Without having experience
> with fishponds, I would approach it like a natatorium (indoor swimming
> pool) and use the ASHRAE Handbook – HVAC Applications Chapter 5 for design
> guidance and loads calculations. Also, see this article:
> <http://hpac.com/humidification-dehumidification/simplified-calculating-evaporation-1011/>
> http://hpac.com/humidification-dehumidification/simplified-calculating-evaporation-1011/for alternate method of calculating evaporation loads. Based on your
> drawings, I would also research state-of-the-art for aquaculture
> facilities, as that looks to be what you are designing.****
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> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Cristian
> Salvador Jara Toro
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:15 AM
> *To:* <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
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> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] fishpond****
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> Sorry, but I meant "design" instead of "model"... because I don´t think to
> model a room with water in it be possible...****
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> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Cristian Salvador Jara Toro <<cristian.jara.toro at gmail.com>
> cristian.jara.toro at gmail.com> wrote:****
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> Greetings!
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> I have to model a room with a fishpond (more like close to a several
> fountains where fishes will be inside). WxLxH=9x13x2.5 in meters.
> Has anybody modeled something like that?
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> So, what I need to know is about ventilation rates for a room like that,
> wich contains water and fishes swimming in it, but my worry is about
> condensations, so if anybody has some paper or standard, please let me know.
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> Thanks in advance...
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