[Equest-users] [eQuest-users] Simulation problems with infiltration and ventilation for a grocery store at Mexico City

Mike Hupel mhupel at aegiseng.ca
Thu Jul 25 04:46:40 PDT 2013


Since the building is on the first floor of a mid-rise building be sure to
take into consideration the stack effect when calculating the vestibule
infiltration rate.  

 

Best of luck 

 

 

Michael Hupel, B.Tech, CEM, LEED®AP

Senior Mechanical Designer

 

Aegis Engineering Inc.

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Concord, ON L4K 3V9

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From: josÿffffffffffe9 luis bermÿfffffffffffadez
[mailto:beralco at yahoo.com.mx] 
Sent: July-24-13 11:45 PM
To: Mike Hupel; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Cc: beralco at yahoo.com.mx
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] [eQuest-users] Simulation problems with
infiltration and ventilation for a grocery store at Mexico City

 

Dear Mr. Hupel:

 

Thank you for your suggestion.  Another point is that the grocery store is
the first floor of a mid-rise building.  Therefore, I cannot place any
rooftop air-conditioning systems.  Any more suggestions will be appreciated.

 

Kind regards,

 

Jose Luis Bermudez Alcocer.


 

  

De: Mike Hupel <mhupel at aegiseng.ca>
Para: 'josÿffffffffffe9 luis bermÿfffffffffffadez' <beralco at yahoo.com.mx>;
equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org 
Enviado: Miércoles, 24 de julio, 2013 14:22:06
Asunto: RE: [Equest-users] [eQuest-users] Simulation problems with
infiltration and ventilation for a grocery store at Mexico City

 

Without looking at the model I can flag a few items for consideration.  The
people load is too high.  ASHRAE 62.1-2010 Table 6-1 has an occupancy
density of 8 people per 1000 ft².  That would put your people load at 74
people not 138.  The infiltration ACH rate is good however if the store has
a vestibule the infiltration rate of the vestibule should be calculated and
modeled.  See ASHRAE vestibule infiltration formula for information.  

 

Hope this helps 

 

 

Michael Hupel, B.Tech, CEM, LEED®AP

Senior Mechanical Designer

 

Aegis Engineering Inc.

56 Pennsylvania Ave. Suite 18

Concord, ON L4K 3V9

(905) 761-1264 ext. 24

(905) 761-6949 fax

(647) 702-3316 cell

 

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Subject: [Equest-users] [eQuest-users] Simulation problems with infiltration
and ventilation for a grocery store at Mexico City

 

Dear all,

 

I am working with an energy analysis in eQuest of a grocery store at Mexico
City.   The grocery store is a small 9,217 sq.ft. with 138 people (approx)
at the same time (67 sq.ft./person).  The only loads that I am using are
lighting and appliances.  The store is considered as a "dry store".  I am
not placing any big commercial refrigerator for meat.  

 

I have some problems with the infiltration and ventilation. The more I read
about these topics and try to apply the information to the model, the more
confused I get over and over again.  I am not sure if I have introduced the
right data to eQuest.  I used 0.161 ACH for infiltration from the following
source in page 32 (infiltration) in the internal loads for the space
properties:

 

http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy08osti/42828.pdf

 

I am not sure if I input this in the right place.  The ventilation is
another issue that I do not have any clue.  What should I put and where
should I put it?  These are the only problems, with my limited experience,
that could be causing some problems.    I am attaching the INP and the PD2
files plus an AutoCAD file, because I drew the floorplan and imported it to
eQuest.  Please, any help will be greatly appreciated.

 

Kind regards,

 

Jose Luis Bermudez Alcocer.

 

 

 

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