[Equest-users] App G model VAV w unmet loads in heating

R B slv3sat at gmail.com
Tue Jul 30 08:46:40 PDT 2013


I recollect that setting 1.15 at the main tab increases the cfm also, so
you might want to leave it at 1 and make changes at the cooling/heating tab.
-Rohini


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Bishop, Bill <bbishop at pathfinder-ea.com>wrote:

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> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *R B
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:40 AM
> *To:* Matthew Baron; eQUEST Users List
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> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] App G model VAV w unmet loads in heating****
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> I looked at your file. When I get these types of unmet errors, the first
> thing I do is set the max flow for heating (under the fan flow parameters)
> to 1 or whatever ratio is allowed - I think the eQuest default is 0.5,
> which probably is too less for cold climates. If this does not help, I
> normally look at the min flow (reducing it if possible helps). Other is to
> look at the zone design cfm - usually reducing it helps - but reducing it
> too much results in cooling hours unmet. For LEED I try to get each zone
> unmet below 50 -so start with the highest unmet zone. Sometimes I end up
> with a combination of all the above.****
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> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Matthew Baron <mbaron at wendelcompanies.com>
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> Yes I have a zone heat source set to my hot water loop and a 50 degree
> delta for the reheat coil.****
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> *From:* R B [mailto:slv3sat at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:16 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] App G model VAV w unmet loads in heating****
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> Do you have a reheat delta t and zone heating coils installed (both in the
> system tab). Sorry, havn't looked at your files.****
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> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Matthew Baron <mbaron at wendelcompanies.com>
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> I am working on several school models and they generally fall into the
> packaged vav with reheat category. The spaces are fine for cooling, but are
> way off for heating. When I look at the ss-p report the heating capacity
> for the units shown to be zero, when I look at the ss-a report it indicates
> the heating load. I have entered the hot deck temp, zone entering temp, a
> preheat coil. Any suggestions would be appreciated.****
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