[Hap-users] A survey on measuring wall height

Michael Hardy mhardy at blackoakengineering.com
Thu Feb 17 20:17:44 PST 2011


I measure floor to floor whether I have return air plenums or ducted
returns.

 

My thinking is that there is heat gain/loss through the wall portion above a
ceiling and below the floor above whether there is air flowing through it
(RA plenum) or not (ducted returns). 

 

I have not tried any of the testing you've suggested, but now that you
mention it, I might play with it a bit to see what happens.

 

Michael L. Hardy, PE, F.NSPE 
Black Oak Engineering, Inc.
Cell 503.314.5244 

 

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[mailto:hap-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Reba Schaber
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To: hap-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Hap-users] A survey on measuring wall height

 

When measuring the wall height to determine the wall area, it's clear the
measurement should be floor to floor for return air plenums.  Then the
appropriate percentage is used in the wall-to-plenum heat gain field of the
System's duct system data.

 

How many HAP users still measure floor to floor when there is ducted return?
Have you then entered the wall area by measuring floor to ceiling to check
the effect on the load?  What is that effect? 

 

It is such a hassle to re-enter the wall area if the system changes from
return air plenum to ducted return.  It would seem the safest assumption is
to enter wall areas by measuring wall height from floor to floor.  Do you
agree?

 

 

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