[TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS-users Digest, Vol 110, Issue 12

Marion Hiller Hiller at Transsolar.com
Thu Feb 13 01:02:43 PST 2014


Huy Tung,

for the first step I recommend to use the internal ideal convective cooling model of Type 56.
Check the manual 05-MultizoneBuilding.pdf section 5.2.4.7. The cooling load is given as an
Type 56 output.

Marion



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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. Februar 2014 03:58
An: trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu
Betreff: Re: [TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS-users Digest, Vol 110, Issue 12

Dear All, especially Marion and David,

First of all, thank you so much for your kindness. I deeply appreciate your help.
Ultimately, I could figure out those errors by following your instructions. However, I found that I only need to capitalize all the names of zones in Google Schetchup pro while I create new zones.

Now, I have another confusion about TRNSYS. I need to compute the COOLING LOAD for an apartment. How can I simulate it? Which types should I use to simulate? Because I saw many types in the TRNSYS Simulation Studio.

Thank you so much.

Yours sincerely,
Nguyen, Huy Tung

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Error reading buifile (David BRADLEY)
   2. Re: Error reading buifile (Marion Hiller)


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From: David BRADLEY <d.bradley at tess-inc.com<mailto:d.bradley at tess-inc.com>>
To: "TRNSYS users mailing list at the Solar Energy Lab, UW-Madison" <trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu<mailto:trnsys-users at cae.wisc.edu>>, nguyenhuytung.cxd1 at gmail.com<mailto:nguyenhuytung.cxd1 at gmail.com>
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:11:28 -0600
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Error reading buifile
Huy Tung,
  There isn't much in the way of tools to help debug an *.idf file that isn't importing correctly into TRNBuild. I have not gotten the exact error message that you mentioned but I have gotten similar ones. The import feature in TRNBuild almost always creates a complete *.b17 file (even if it won't open the *.b17 fully). I would recommend that you open the *.b17 with a text editor (such as Notepad) and see if you can locate the surface that is causing you the error then go back to SketchUp, delete the corresponding surface and redraw it.
  In general it is highly recommended that you draw your building one zone at a time, match surfaces, then import the building into TRNBuild after each new zone is drawn. It becomes increasingly difficult to go back and find an error in the Trnsys3D plugin. By importing after drawing each new zone you make sure that you catch the error early.
  Of course if you are unable to find the cause of the error you can send the *.idf to your distributor for assistance.
Kind regards,
 David


On 2/9/2014 02:03, Tung Nguyen Huy wrote:
Hello,

I made the house model by Google Sketchup Pro and match the surfaces by SURFACE MATCHING tool. However, when I use TRNSYS Simulation Studio to run the *.idf file. It notices an ERROR READING BUIFILE - "WALL SURFACE NUMBER IS NOT UNIQUE".

Please help me how to fix or how to avoid those errors. I met those errors many times, so I cannot do my work further.

Thank you so much.

Yours sincerely,

Nguyen, Huy Tung



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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:33:42 +0000
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Error reading buifile
Huy Tung,

Did you draw the model using the plugin Trnsys3d?

If you draw a surface in Trnsys3d it gets automatically assigned a "name" which is an arbitrary combination of numbers and characters.
This field isn't an input and shouldn't be modified by the user in order to avoid errors.
During the import in the Trnsys Studio, the *.idf file is translated into a *.b17 file and thereby the surface names are converted into
unique surface IDs.
The error messages shows you the zone and airnode name and the surface ID which is causing the error. I would recommend that you open the b17 error
In a text editor and search for the surface ID and replace it by an unique number.

Marion


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Betreff: [TRNSYS-users] Error reading buifile

Hello,

I made the house model by Google Sketchup Pro and match the surfaces by SURFACE MATCHING tool. However, when I use TRNSYS Simulation Studio to run the *.idf file. It notices an ERROR READING BUIFILE - "WALL SURFACE NUMBER IS NOT UNIQUE".

Please help me how to fix or how to avoid those errors. I met those errors many times, so I cannot do my work further.

Thank you so much.

Yours sincerely,

Nguyen, Huy Tung

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