[bldg-sim] Green Building Studio

[Graham & Megan]

I won't add to the numerous emails already sent other than to say the
technical problems in our industry are inconsequential compared to the
communication and education challenges.

Brian's email made me remember a book I read a while back, "Who Owns the
Sun?" by Berman & O'Connor which describes the lobbying, spin-doctoring and
ability of the oil industry to crush what they saw as a threat.  It's a good
read for those who have moments of naievety (sp?) like me.  They may have
set us back 30 years, but as Peter said we will get there.  I just hope it
is quick enough.  Vikram, don't buy property below 30 feet above sea level.

Graham
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Thornton" <thorntonenergy at comcast.net>
To: <bldg-sim at gard.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:50 AM
Subject: [bldg-sim] Green Building Studio


> One caution--educating "the masses" about the benefits of energy
efficiency
> is one thing.  Providing access to misinformation, and analysis that leads
> to wrong design choices, will only discredit the energy profession.
Witness
> the rise of solar technology in the 70's, greatly harmed by the entry of
fly
> by night solar companies that sold cheap collectors that lasted a year in
> the field. One incorrect step forward can cost many correct steps.
>
> Brian
>
> Thornton Energy Consulting
> p. 503-231-6600 f. 503-231-3555
> thorntonenergy at comcast.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bldg-sim at gard.com [mailto:bldg-sim at gard.com] On Behalf Of Russell
> Richman
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:17 AM
> To: bldg-sim at gard.com
> Cc: bldg-sim at gard.com
> Subject: [bldg-sim] Green Building Studio
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> After reading some of the posts surrounding this thread, I think we are
> missing
> the point.  Educating the masses.  In my opinion, that will be the single
> deciding factor for future generations.  As such, ANY way we can educate
> will
> help.  One small step forward is still a step in the correct direction.
> Wherever, whatever, whoever...if the word gets out about energy efficient
> buildings then progress is being accomplished.
>
> Just an observation from "the great white north."
>
> Cheers,
> Russ
>
> Quoting John Aulbach <jra_sac at yahoo.com>:
>
> > Carol:
> >
> > Remember one thing. Just because someone doesn't have
> > a "Green" label next to their title, doesn't negate
> > the PE license, the CEM license, and 25 years
> > experience of energy engineering and DOE2 experience
> > either. Or hourly computer energy modeling in 1977 on
> > a mainframe computer.
> >
> > Just another test to pass...
> >
> > Just as Combined Heat and Power (CHP) has existed
> > under the names Co Generation and even "Total Energy"
> > (1969), so the Green Building Movement has evolved
> > from ER-30 downlights. 1st generation T-8 lamps,
> > original "whinny" variable speed drives, and alaog EMS
> > systems.
> >
> > I totally agree that, like the bombers vs. missiles
> > controversy in national defense, it remains that
> > energy consultants, by ANY name,need to make sure
> > simulation results are REAL and POSSIBLE, not
> > something from a computer's fantasy. A HUMAN needs to
> > review data to verify its validity.
> >
> > THAT doesn't come from any degree or title. That comes
> > from EXPERIENCE.
> >
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> -- 
> Russell Richman
> Department of Civil Engineering
> University of Toronto
> 35 St. George Street
> Toronto, Ontario, M5S 1A4
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