[Bldg-sim] Perimeter Slab Insulation
JRR
energy.wwind at cox.net
Thu Jan 22 13:45:26 PST 2009
John Ross wrote;
Remember the climate is usually dryer in Winter reducing the ground
thermal coupling for most
climates. This would probably be reversed for California and South
Texas / Houston areas.
David Bradley wrote:
> Keith,
> If you have a cooling dominated application and a relatively cool
> average annual ground temperature, insulating underneath the slab is
> going to disrupt some amount of free cooling that you are getting.
> Adding insulation would drive cooling energy up a bit and heating
> energy down. Depending on the magnitude of the heating and cooling
> changes, you could see a net increase in HVAC energy over the year. An
> increase in heating energy and no change in cooling energy is a bit
> suspicious. You might look into how the software you are using models
> the ground heat transfer. There has been a good bit of work done and
> recently wrapped up under IEA Task 34/45 on evaluating the ground
> coupling models used by various simulation tools.
> Kind regards,
> David
>
>
> Keith Swartz wrote:
>>
>> Do any of you know the reasoning behind why the 2006 edition of the
>> International Energy Conservation Code (IECC) removed the requirement
>> for insulation for unheated slabs for some climate zones? I have done
>> a few energy models recently with slab insulation as a potential
>> energy saving measure. The numbers were very small, which was
>> expected, but what surprised me was that the savings were negative.
>> Adding insulation to the slab actually _increased_ annual energy
>> usage (very slightly). Cooling was unaffected, but fan energy was
>> slightly higher during the heating season. My quick search for
>> research reports or other insights to explain this came up empty. Do
>> any of you have any thoughts? Are the results so insignificant that
>> the differences I am seeing in the calculations could just be
>> considered "noise"?
>>
>>
>>
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