[BLDG-SIM] Energy modeling of an ice ring

Jeff Haberl jhaberl at esl.tamu.edu
Sat Mar 29 15:04:35 PST 2003


I pretty sure the refrigeration component in 2.1e is for grocery
stores...but could be tricked 
into thinking it is an ice rink. I'm not current on 2.2.
 
Jeff
 


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Jeff S. Haberl, Ph.D., P.E.............................jhaberl at esl.tamu.edu 
Associate Professor....................................Office Ph:
979-845-6507 
Department of Architecture...........................Lab Ph: 979-845-6065 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Aulbach, John [mailto:JAulbach at semprasolutions.com]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:37 PM
To: Jeff Haberl; BLDG-SIM at gard.com
Subject: RE: [BLDG-SIM] Energy modeling of an ice ring



Hey, Jeff. I haven't tried it, but doesn't 2.1E TNG (The Next Generation)
have a refrigeration component that might be expanded to an ice rink?

Also, eQuest Version 3.0 (DOE-2.2) claims to now have the direct ability to
do ice rinks via the refrigeration system link.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jeff Haberl [ mailto:jhaberl at esl.tamu.edu
<mailto:jhaberl at esl.tamu.edu> ] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:24 PM 
To: BLDG-SIM at gard.com 
Subject: [BLDG-SIM] Energy modeling of an ice ring 


Hello: 

One can force DOE-2 into thinking there's a "cold" zone sandwiched in 
between two 
zones, with a bit of tinkering with UA's to counteract minimum zone temps. 

That's what we did in the following paper: 

Haberl, J., Claridge, D. 1985. "Retrofit Energy Studies of a Recreation 
Center",  ASHRAE Transactions-Research, Volume 91, Part 2, pp.  1421 - 1433,

(June). 

Hopefully, some better methods are now available elsewhere that model 
interior conditions, including radiation from the rink to surfaces inside 
the 
building... 

Jeff 

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Jeff S. Haberl, Ph.D., P.E.............................jhaberl at esl.tamu.edu 
Associate Professor....................................Office Ph: 
979-845-6507 
Department of Architecture...........................Lab Ph: 979-845-6065 
Energy Systems Laboratory...........................FAX: 979-862-2457 
Texas A&M University..................................77843-3581 
College Station, Texas, USA...........................URL: www-esl.tamu.edu 

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-----Original Message----- 
From: postman at gard.com [ mailto:postman at gard.com <mailto:postman at gard.com>
]On Behalf Of Kateri Heon 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:48 PM 
To: BLDG-SIM at gard.com 
Subject: [BLDG-SIM] Energy modeling of an ice ring 



Hi, 

I am interested too in modeling ice ring with DOE-2. 
Any information regarding ice ring modeling would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks 
Kateri 

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