[Bldg-sim] eQuest: changing inside film resistance on schedule?
Joe Huang
joe at drawbdl.com
Thu Sep 3 16:16:28 PDT 2009
Brent,
This was something I looked at about 15 years ago in a LBNL project for
the California Institute for Energy Efficiency to design a
compressorless house for California transition climates, using the
DOE-2.1E program. There was a paper that I wrote with Fred Winkelmann
called "the Story of h", that I believe got turned into an LBNL report,
circa 1993. Since eQUEST uses the same modeling as DOE-2.1E,
what I found should also apply.
Unfortunately, it is difficult to vary the inside air film coefficient
in DOE-2, since it is used in calculating the response factor of each
layer, and ultimately in the weighting factor of each space. Making the
response factora changeable during a simulation would require major
mathematical surgery of the room model used in DOE-2 and possibly
invalidate the whole weighting factor approach.
What I did do, which was not very satisfactory, was to do multiple runs
varying the h (inside air film coefficient) in order to bound the
effect. I based the value of h depending on the air flow rate on work
done by Jeff Spitler at Oklahoma State University on an ASHRAE project,
but I don't recall the exact values. I do recall that beyond a certain
amount of air changes, ~ 20 ?, there was little change in h.
Joe Huang
White Box Technologies
346 Rheem Blvd, Suite 108D
(925)388-0265
yjhuang at whiteboxtechnologies.com
Brent Eubanks wrote:
>
>
> (Got no responses from eQuest users list, reposting here)
>
>
> Another question related to my thermal mass passive cooling project:
> Part of this project is to use ceiling fans for comfort cooling during
> the day. We also are considering using the ceiling fans (under EMS
> control) to run at night to improve the efficiency of the heat transfer
> to walls during the precooling phase.
>
>
>
> It seems like the easiest way to simulate this would be to adjust the
> inside film resistance downward during the times the ceiling fans are
> running. To wit:
>
> 1) Is there any way to vary the inside film resistance e.g. on a
> schedule?
>
> 2) Does anyone have a sense of the relationship between inside film
> resistance and air velocity, to establish a good value for the times
> that the fans are running? We’re expecting air velocities of ~100-200
> FPM near the walls.
>
> 3) Can anyone think of a different approach to simulating this
> effect, other than manipulating the inside film resistance values?
>
> Thanks, once again.
>
> Brent Eubanks
>
> Mechanical Designer, Taylor Engineering, LLC
>
> 1080 Marina Village Parkway, Suite 501, Alameda CA 94501
>
> (510) 473-1164 direct, (510) 749-9135 office
>
> (510) 749-9136 fax
>
>
>
> beubanks at taylor-engineering.com
>
> www.taylor-engineering.com
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