[Bldg-sim] Prototype Commercial Building?
Hwakong Cheng
hwakong at hotmail.com
Thu Jul 15 23:30:49 PDT 2010
Hi Joe (and Morgan!),
I assume that the original prototypical models were developed for DOE-2.1e and not DOE-2.2, but please confirm. I would be interested in looking at these prototypes too if you are willing to share.
Thanks,
Hwakong
> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:50:49 -0700
> From: YJHuang at whiteboxtechnologies.com
> To: morgan at ecotope.com
> CC: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
> Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Prototype Commercial Building?
>
> Yes and no. My original prototypes were reviewed in a 18-month interlab
> effort between LBNL (where I was at the time), PNNL, and NREL. A team of
> three working under me updated the prototypes to ASHRAE 90.1-2003, as
> well as incorporating comments, received mostly from PNNL and DOE. At
> DOE's request, we also converted the building files from DOE-2 BDL to
> EnergyPlus IDF, and delivered both sets to DOE, PNNL, and NREL. After my
> departure from LBNL in June 2007, NREL continued working on the
> EnergyPlus files, and released them in 2009. I have not looked at these,
> but according to my LBNL colleague these are essentially the same
> building models, although there have been some improvements to the
> system inputs from what I had delivered.
>
>
> Joe Huang
> White Box Technologies, Inc.
> 346 Rheem Blvd. Suite 108D
> Moraga CA 94556
> (o) +925 388 0265
> (c) +510 928 2683
> yjhuang at whiteboxtechnologies.com
> www.whiteboxtechnologies.com
>
>
> Morgan Heater wrote:
> > Are your prototypes the ones that were converted into the energyplus files
> > referenced here?
> >
> > http://www1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/commercial_initiative/reference_buil
> > dings.html
> >
> > If you had a doe-2 version of the medium office prototype, that would be
> > really helpful.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Huang [mailto:YJHuang at whiteboxtechnologies.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:17 PM
> > To: Morgan Heater
> > Cc: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
> > Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Prototype Commercial Building?
> >
> > Are you referring to a prototypical commercial office building?
> > While at LBNL, I developed a suite of 486 prototypical commercial
> > buildings covering 16 building types of three vintages in 16 cities,
> > that were later generalized to around 120 regional prototypes.
> >
> > These were originally developed in the early 1990's as DOE-2 files,
> > but were converted to EnergyPlus in 2005-2007 and now exist as DOE's
> > benchmark buildings available on the NREL web site. However, I did
> > all the development work in DOE-2, and still have all these DOE-2
> > files, with the intention of putting them on my Web site at some
> > point.
> >
> > I can send you the medium office prototype if you're interested.
> > A distinguishing feature of these prototypes is that the input files
> > are highly modular and make extensive use of DOE-2 macros to set the
> > key building parameters (size, number of floors, interior conditions,
> > etc.). This makes the building models very flexible and extensible.
> > After all, I've yet to meet a researcher who just wanted to have an
> > input file and do a run without any modifications.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > Joe Huang
> > White Box Technologies, Inc.
> > 346 Rheem Blvd. Suite 108D
> > Moraga CA 94556
> > (o) +925 388 0265
> > (c) +510 928 2683
> > yjhuang at whiteboxtechnologies.com
> > www.whiteboxtechnologies.com
> >
> >
> > Morgan Heater wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi - I'm looking for either a doe2 model or a list of modeling
> >> parameters for a prototype commercial building. Ideally, I'm looking
> >> for a model that's for a typical commercial building around 40,000
> >> square feet that's been used/validated in other research projects.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Anybody have any leads? Thanks.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Morgan Heater, PE, LEED AP
> >>
> >> Ecotope, Inc
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> (206) 322-3753 x209
> >>
> >> 4056 9th Avenue NE
> >>
> >> Seattle, WA 98105
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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