[Bldg-sim] Appendix G - Fan power

Sami, Vikram Vikram.Sami at perkinswill.com
Tue Mar 8 09:53:20 PST 2011


Here's my attempt at doing that - let me know if this makes sense.

Basically what I've done is separate out the supply fan energy and the condenser and compressor energy to give you an EER (and EIR for eQUEST) for just the cooling side.

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From: Nick Caton [mailto:ncaton at smithboucher.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:30 PM
To: jtorres-coto at mbo1.com; James Hansen; Sami, Vikram; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: RE: [Bldg-sim] Appendix G - Fan power

Very nifty - don't know if anyone was curious, but this checks out against the math in my personal spreadsheet.

Out of pure curiosity, does anybody else combine their baseline system efficiency calcs (i.e. EIR) alongside their fan power calcs, or is it normal to submit that separately... or not at all?

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From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Jorge Torres-Coto
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 10:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Appendix G - Fan power

Actually the calculator has both the 2004 and the 2007 in separate tabs.

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Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Appendix G - Fan power

Keep in mind that calculator is only for 90.1-2004.  Calculations have changed substantially for 90.1-2007.  Less restrictive for larger systems, more restrictive for smaller systems.

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From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Jorge Torres-Coto
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 11:29 AM
To: 'Sami, Vikram'; 'bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org'
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Appendix G - Fan power

Yes that is correct, the dot means multiplication.

The Excel calculator will come in very handy (credit to 7 Group)

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From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Sami, Vikram
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:11 AM
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Subject: [Bldg-sim] Appendix G - Fan power

Does the dot in the equation indicate multiplication? So should the equation read CFMS X 0.0013 + A?

The reason I am confused is that they use X in other places.
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