[Bldg-sim] Building envelope

leen peeters l.f.r.peeters at gmail.com
Sun Jan 22 01:05:31 PST 2012


What would be really interesting is if multiple people would model the same
building in the same code, like have two energy Plus simulations, 2 TRNSYS,
2ESp-r, ... to see how, based on the same information, results might differ
...

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Jeremiah Crossett
<jeremiah at setnrgh2o.com>wrote:

> I have two office buildings with data, including energy star portfolio
> manager data, and actual utility meeter data. Also I have
> architectural data on them.  For the one I have three years data on, the
> other only one year.   See the attached for the one with the best data and
> let me know if one of these works..
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>  On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:00 AM, RobertWichert <robert at wichert.org>wrote:
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>>  Now THAT would be a better test than I envisioned, Jon.  I was just
>> thinking of comparing models, NOT comparing them to a real building.
>> Sounds like fun though!
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>> On 1/21/2012 9:15 AM, Jon Broadway wrote:
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>>  Mr Wichert:  And the next question would be , “Where do we find such an
>> existing  bldg. with real demand and energy data set already
>> available?.”     I would assume that many such exist, but I , for one,
>> would not know how to begin to identify one.  Maybe the folks at NREL or
>> LNBL have access to such data, and maybe one from there could kindly
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>> *From:* RobertWichert [mailto:robert at wichert.org <robert at wichert.org>]
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 20, 2012 12:55 PM
>> *To:* Jon Broadway; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
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>> Yes, of course.  I was thinking of a non-residential one-story wood
>> frame, steel studs, or concrete block building with one or two windows per
>> side and a cathedral ceiling on a poured slab.  A basement would be OK too,
>> but not really necessary.  Either no zoning at all or a core for
>> toilets/break rooms and open plan office all around.
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>> I mean REALLY simple.
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>> On 1/20/2012 10:08 AM, Jon Broadway wrote: ****
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>> Mr Wichert: Although I like your idea of head-to-head modeling, I think
>> it would only be real useful if one could start with a “simple” bldg. for
>> wahich there was existing good quality energy and demand data set.   That
>> way, one could not only have “precision “ but also some baseline of
>> “accuracy”.****
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>> I like you idea,  but to start small and simple would be key for me,  so
>> as not to commit a large amount of time.****
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>> Thanks for your suggestion.****
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