[Bldg-sim] Building envelope

[Jeremiah Crossett]

These are great,  I wonder if when simplfying energy modeling you loose the
value of some software tools? Without such things as windows, lighting,
HVAC, etc some software may seem like it is a better tool, but then
modeling real world buildings another software tool may work better.. Just
a thought...

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:09 AM, mark dewsbury
<Mark.Dewsbury at utas.edu.au>wrote:

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> *From:* RobertWichert [mailto:robert at wichert.org]
> *Sent:* Sunday, 22 January 2012 6:00 AM
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> *To:* Jon Broadway; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Bldg-sim] Building envelope
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> Now THAT would be a better test than I envisioned, Jon.  I was just
> thinking of comparing models, NOT comparing them to a real building.
> Sounds like fun though!
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> On 1/21/2012 9:15 AM, Jon Broadway wrote: ****
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> Mr Wichert:  And the next question would be , “Where do we find such an
> existing  bldg. with real demand and energy data set already
> available?.”     I would assume that many such exist, but I , for one,
> would not know how to begin to identify one.  Maybe the folks at NREL or
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> *From:* RobertWichert [mailto:robert at wichert.org <robert at wichert.org>]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 20, 2012 12:55 PM
> *To:* Jon Broadway; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Bldg-sim] Building envelope********
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> Yes, of course.  I was thinking of a non-residential one-story wood frame,
> steel studs, or concrete block building with one or two windows per side
> and a cathedral ceiling on a poured slab.  A basement would be OK too, but
> not really necessary.  Either no zoning at all or a core for toilets/break
> rooms and open plan office all around.
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> I mean REALLY simple.
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> On 1/20/2012 10:08 AM, Jon Broadway wrote: ********
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> Mr Wichert: Although I like your idea of head-to-head modeling, I think it
> would only be real useful if one could start with a “simple” bldg. for
> wahich there was existing good quality energy and demand data set.   That
> way, one could not only have “precision “ but also some baseline of
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> I like you idea,  but to start small and simple would be key for me,  so
> as not to commit a large amount of time.********
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