[Bldg-sim] Building envelope

mark dewsbury Mark.Dewsbury at utas.edu.au
Sun Jan 22 14:33:48 PST 2012


For software calibration we start with the simplest envelope of all first.
We can then establish which algorithms require tweaking. We can then change
bits and see what happens. 

We have identified many aspects of the HER software requiring further
investigation.

We are now in the last stages of some intensive subfloor research. 

About to look at reflective versus bulk subfloor insulation, followed by
thermal mass. 

We can mimic internal heat loads and HVAC operation. 

Windows one day in the future when the other envelope elements are tested. 

 

Mark Dewsbury (PhD)

Residential Thermal Performance Research 
School of Architecture & Design
University of Tasmania
Locked Bag 1324
Launceston 7250
Ph: 03 6324 4471
mob: 0417 290 807
fax: 03 6324 4088
e: mark.dewsbury at utas.edu.au

Dr Mark Dewsbury is currently a member of the Nationwide House Energy Rating
Scheme Technical Advisory Committee (NatHERS TAC) 

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From: Jeremiah Crossett [mailto:jeremiah at setnrgh2o.com] 
Sent: Monday, 23 January 2012 4:50 AM
To: mark dewsbury
Cc: RobertWichert; Jon Broadway; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Building envelope

 

These are great,  I wonder if when simplfying energy modeling you loose the
value of some software tools? Without such things as windows, lighting,
HVAC, etc some software may seem like it is a better tool, but then modeling
real world buildings another software tool may work better.. Just a
thought...

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:09 AM, mark dewsbury <Mark.Dewsbury at utas.edu.au>
wrote:

Dear Gents,

I have some toys



 

 

 

Mark Dewsbury (PhD)

Residential Thermal Performance Research 
School of Architecture & Design
University of Tasmania
Locked Bag 1324
Launceston 7250
Ph: 03 6324 4471
mob: 0417 290 807
fax: 03 6324 4088
e: mark.dewsbury at utas.edu.au

Dr Mark Dewsbury is currently a member of the Nationwide House Energy Rating
Scheme Technical Advisory Committee (NatHERS TAC) 

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From: RobertWichert [mailto:robert at wichert.org] 
Sent: Sunday, 22 January 2012 6:00 AM


To: Jon Broadway; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Building envelope

 

Now THAT would be a better test than I envisioned, Jon.  I was just thinking
of comparing models, NOT comparing them to a real building.  Sounds like fun
though!





Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP
+1 916 966 9060 <tel:%2B1%20916%20966%209060> 
FAX +1 916 966 9068 <tel:%2B1%20916%20966%209068> 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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On 1/21/2012 9:15 AM, Jon Broadway wrote: 

Mr Wichert:  And the next question would be , "Where do we find such an
existing  bldg. with real demand and energy data set already available?."
I would assume that many such exist, but I , for one, would not know how to
begin to identify one.  Maybe the folks at NREL or LNBL have access to such
data, and maybe one from there could kindly respond to your request?

 

Regards,

Jon A . Broadway

 

From: RobertWichert [mailto:robert at wichert.org] 
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 12:55 PM
To: Jon Broadway; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Building envelope

 

Yes, of course.  I was thinking of a non-residential one-story wood frame,
steel studs, or concrete block building with one or two windows per side and
a cathedral ceiling on a poured slab.  A basement would be OK too, but not
really necessary.  Either no zoning at all or a core for toilets/break rooms
and open plan office all around.

I mean REALLY simple.





Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP
+1 916 966 9060 <tel:%2B1%20916%20966%209060> 
FAX +1 916 966 9068 <tel:%2B1%20916%20966%209068> 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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On 1/20/2012 10:08 AM, Jon Broadway wrote: 

Mr Wichert: Although I like your idea of head-to-head modeling, I think it
would only be real useful if one could start with a "simple" bldg. for
wahich there was existing good quality energy and demand data set.   That
way, one could not only have "precision " but also some baseline of
"accuracy".

 

I like you idea,  but to start small and simple would be key for me,  so as
not to commit a large amount of time.

 

Thanks for your suggestion.

 

Jon Broadway

 

Jon  Broadway, Ph.D., P.E. 

Member, US  Green Building Council

Member, International Building Performance Standards Association (IBPSA)

 

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