[Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
Rosenberg, Michael I
michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
Thu Feb 7 10:12:37 PST 2013
What I was really interested in is software that does the whole process automatically. No manipulation on the part of the user at all. You input a proposed building design, and following one of the rulesets results are generated. Does that exist and if it does, for which protocols?
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Echoing everyone's caution for "Automatic" - I think it also depends on what you are using it for. If it's for a detailed compliance modeling, then I would really caution against it. If it's for quick EEM explorations I am sure it's a simpler matter.
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You do need to be careful about "automatic" - it's a complex thing to fully automate. There are more exceptions than rules.
IES VE has a PRM Navigator which automates baselines for both 90.1-2004 and 2007 following the PRM methodology (Appendix G).
The PRM Navigator does auto-generate much of the baseline - but also allows the user to go in and see and "break" or edit the baseline as needed for different conditions.
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Subject: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
I am hoping the building simulation community can help answer a question for me. What software packages out there automatically generate baseline models for the ASHRAE 90.1 Energy Cost Budget Methodology or Appendix G? Thanks.
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Michael Rosenberg, CEM, LEED AP
Senior Research Scientist
ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT DIRECTORATE
Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
2032 Todd Street
Eugene, OR 97405
(541) 844-1960
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