[Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models

Chris Yates chris.malcolm.yates at gmail.com
Thu Feb 7 13:34:03 PST 2013


Anybody tried the E+ example file generator. I found a minor issue with 
it's PTAC definition but worth a look in.
http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/energyplus/cfm/inputs/

Chris

On 07/02/2013 21:18, Tianzhen Hong wrote:
> Mike,
>
> EnergyPro does that.
>
> Tianzhen
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>        1. Penetration of energy modeling in new construction
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>        2. Automatic Generation of Baseline Models (Rosenberg, Michael I)
>        3. Re: Automatic Generation of Baseline Models (Jeremiah Crossett)
>        4. Re: Automatic Generation of Baseline Models (Jim Dirkes)
>        5. Re: Automatic Generation of Baseline Models (Rosenberg,
>     Michael I)
>        6. Re: Automatic Generation of Baseline Models (Paul Riemer)
>        7. Re: Automatic Generation of Baseline Models (Nathan Kegel)
>        8. Re: Automatic Generation of Baseline Models (Sami, Vikram)
>        9. Re: Automatic Generation of Baseline Models (Rosenberg,
>     Michael I)
>       10. Re: Automatic Generation of Baseline Models (Eric Oliver)
>       11. Re: Automatic Generation of Baseline Models (Max Tillberg)
>       12. Re: Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>           (Dru.Crawley at bentley.com <mailto:Dru.Crawley at bentley.com>)
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>     Message: 1
>     Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:35:27 +0000
>     From: Christoph Reinhart <tito_ at MIT.EDU <mailto:tito_ at MIT.EDU>>
>     To: "bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
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>     Dear colleagues,
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>     I vaguely recall past discussions on this forum as to the
>     penetration rate on building energy modeling in new construction
>     (and retrofit?). Would some of you have relevant numbers for the
>     US and other countries to share.
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>     Best,
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>     Christoph
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>     From: "Rosenberg, Michael I" <michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
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>     I am hoping the building simulation community can help answer a
>     question for me. What software packages out there automatically
>     generate baseline models for the ASHRAE 90.1 Energy Cost Budget
>     Methodology or Appendix G? Thanks.
>
>     __________________________
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>     Michael Rosenberg, CEM, LEED AP
>     Senior Research Scientist
>     ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT DIRECTORATE
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>     Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
>     2032 Todd Street
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>     Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 09:07:16 -0800
>     From: Jeremiah Crossett <jcrossett at phasechange.com
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>     To: "Rosenberg, Michael I" <michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
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>     Bentley havacomp AECOSIM does for one..
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>     On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Rosenberg, Michael I <
>     michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov>> wrote:
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>     > I am hoping the building simulation community can help answer a
>     question
>     > for me. What software packages out there automatically generate
>     baseline
>     > models for the ASHRAE 90.1 Energy Cost Budget Methodology or
>     Appendix G?
>     > Thanks. ****
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>     Message: 4
>     Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:13:27 -0600
>     From: Jim Dirkes <jim at buildingperformanceteam.com
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>     To: Jeremiah Crossett <jcrossett at phasechange.com
>     <mailto:jcrossett at phasechange.com>>, "Rosenberg, Michael
>             I"      <michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
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>     I think you need to define "automatically" carefully.
>     DesignBuilder does a fair amount of the work and Simergy intends
>     to do something similar.
>     As an example, the proper ASHRAE 90.1 EER / COP is not known until
>     you actually run the simulation and find out the capacity.  It
>     seems to me that some of the criteria must be ascertained from a
>     successful simulation before you can have a complete Baseline.
>     Another example that has been discussed in this forum  is
>     calculating the proper fan and pump pressure rise to comply with 90.1
>
>     James V Dirkes II, PE, BEMP, LEED AP
>     www.buildingperformanceteam.com
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>     From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>
>     [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>] On Behalf Of
>     Jeremiah Crossett
>     Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:07 PM
>     To: Rosenberg, Michael I
>     Cc: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>
>     Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>
>     Bentley havacomp AECOSIM does for one..
>
>
>     Jeremiah D. Crossett  | Senior Analyst  |  Phase Change Energy
>     Solutions
>     120 E. Pritchard St.  | Asheboro, NC 27203  | Mobile 503-688-8951
>     <tel:503-688-8951>
>     www.phasechange.com
>     <http://www.phasechange.com><http://www.phasechange.com>
>       [http://i.imgur.com/Sldxf.jpg]
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>     On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Rosenberg, Michael I
>     <michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov><mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov>>> wrote:
>     I am hoping the building simulation community can help answer a
>     question for me. What software packages out there automatically
>     generate baseline models for the ASHRAE 90.1 Energy Cost Budget
>     Methodology or Appendix G? Thanks.
>
>     __________________________
>
>     Michael Rosenberg, CEM, LEED AP
>     Senior Research Scientist
>     ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT DIRECTORATE
>
>     Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
>     2032 Todd Street
>     Eugene, OR 97405
>     (541) 844-1960 <tel:%28541%29%20844-1960><tel:%28541%29%20844-1960>
>     michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov><mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov>>
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>     Message: 5
>     Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 09:19:49 -0800
>     From: "Rosenberg, Michael I" <michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov>>
>     To: Jim Dirkes <jim at buildingperformanceteam.com
>     <mailto:jim at buildingperformanceteam.com>>, Jeremiah Crossett
>             <jcrossett at phasechange.com <mailto:jcrossett at phasechange.com>>
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>     Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
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>     That is a good point Jim. To actually generate a baseline
>     following either of the protocols, it is necessary to first do a
>     sizing run. So the automation would need to be a two-step process.
>
>     __________________________
>
>     Michael Rosenberg, CEM, LEED AP
>     Senior Research Scientist
>     ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT DIRECTORATE
>
>     Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
>     2032 Todd Street
>     Eugene, OR 97405
>     (541) 844-1960 <tel:%28541%29%20844-1960>
>     michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov><mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov>>
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>
>     From: Jim Dirkes [mailto:jim at buildingperformanceteam.com
>     <mailto:jim at buildingperformanceteam.com>]
>     Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 9:13 AM
>     To: Jeremiah Crossett; Rosenberg, Michael I
>     Cc: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>
>     Subject: RE: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>
>     I think you need to define "automatically" carefully.
>     DesignBuilder does a fair amount of the work and Simergy intends
>     to do something similar.
>     As an example, the proper ASHRAE 90.1 EER / COP is not known until
>     you actually run the simulation and find out the capacity.  It
>     seems to me that some of the criteria must be ascertained from a
>     successful simulation before you can have a complete Baseline.
>     Another example that has been discussed in this forum  is
>     calculating the proper fan and pump pressure rise to comply with 90.1
>
>     James V Dirkes II, PE, BEMP, LEED AP
>     www.buildingperformanceteam.com
>     <http://www.buildingperformanceteam.com><http://www.buildingperformanceteam.com/>
>     Energy Analysis, Commissioning & Training Services
>     1631 Acacia Drive, Grand Rapids, MI 49504 USA
>     616 450 8653 <tel:616%20450%208653>
>
>     From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org><mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>>
>     [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuildingorg
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuildingorg>] On Behalf Of
>     Jeremiah Crossett
>     Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:07 PM
>     To: Rosenberg, Michael I
>     Cc: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org><mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>>
>     Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>
>     Bentley havacomp AECOSIM does for one..
>
>
>     Jeremiah D. Crossett  | Senior Analyst  |  Phase Change Energy
>     Solutions
>     120 E. Pritchard St.  | Asheboro, NC 27203  | Mobile 503-688-8951
>     <tel:503-688-8951>
>     www.phasechange.com
>     <http://www.phasechange.com><http://www.phasechange.com>
>       [http://i.imgur.com/Sldxf.jpg]
>
>
>
>
>     On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Rosenberg, Michael I
>     <michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov><mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov>>> wrote:
>     I am hoping the building simulation community can help answer a
>     question for me. What software packages out there automatically
>     generate baseline models for the ASHRAE 90.1 Energy Cost Budget
>     Methodology or Appendix G? Thanks.
>
>     __________________________
>
>     Michael Rosenberg, CEM, LEED AP
>     Senior Research Scientist
>     ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT DIRECTORATE
>
>     Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
>     2032 Todd Street
>     Eugene, OR 97405
>     (541) 844-1960 <tel:%28541%29%20844-1960><tel:%28541%29%20844-1960>
>     michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov><mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov>>
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>     Message: 6
>     Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:37:19 -0600
>     From: Paul Riemer <Paul.Riemer at dunhameng.com
>     <mailto:Paul.Riemer at dunhameng.com>>
>     To: "'Rosenberg, Michael I'" <michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov>>, Jim Dirkes
>             <jim at buildingperformanceteam.com
>     <mailto:jim at buildingperformanceteam.com>>, Jeremiah Crossett
>             <jcrossett at phasechange.com <mailto:jcrossett at phasechange.com>>
>     Cc: "bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
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>     Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
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>     If you have waterside systems it really becomes three steps:
>
>     1)      Run with all guesses to determine airside sizing
>
>     2)      Run with determined airside sizing and guessed waterside
>     sizing
>
>     3)      Run with known airside and waterside sizing
>
>     Then the complications of the rotations and satisfying unmet hours
>     criteria.
>     If you view modeling like a video game with level to achieve and
>     get a good soundtrack, then you can be happily oblivious about how
>     much time you are spending on it.
>
>     Paul Riemer, PE, LEED AP BD+C
>     DUNHAM
>
>     From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>
>     [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>] On Behalf Of
>     Rosenberg, Michael I
>     Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 11:20 AM
>     To: Jim Dirkes; Jeremiah Crossett
>     Cc: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>
>     Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>
>     That is a good point Jim. To actually generate a baseline
>     following either of the protocols, it is necessary to first do a
>     sizing run. So the automation would need to be a two-step process.
>
>     __________________________
>
>     Michael Rosenberg, CEM, LEED AP
>     Senior Research Scientist
>     ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT DIRECTORATE
>
>     Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
>     2032 Todd Street
>     Eugene, OR 97405
>     (541) 844-1960
>     michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov><mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov>>
>     www.pnnl.gov <http://www.pnnl.gov><http://www.pnl.gov/>
>
>
>     From: Jim Dirkes [mailto:jim at buildingperformanceteam.com
>     <mailto:jim at buildingperformanceteam.com>]
>     Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 9:13 AM
>     To: Jeremiah Crossett; Rosenberg, Michael I
>     Cc: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>
>     Subject: RE: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>
>     I think you need to define "automatically" carefully.
>     DesignBuilder does a fair amount of the work and Simergy intends
>     to do something similar.
>     As an example, the proper ASHRAE 90.1 EER / COP is not known until
>     you actually run the simulation and find out the capacity.  It
>     seems to me that some of the criteria must be ascertained from a
>     successful simulation before you can have a complete Baseline.
>     Another example that has been discussed in this forum  is
>     calculating the proper fan and pump pressure rise to comply with 90.1
>
>     James V Dirkes II, PE, BEMP, LEED AP
>     www.buildingperformanceteam.com
>     <http://www.buildingperformanceteam.com><http://www.buildingperformanceteam.com/>
>     Energy Analysis, Commissioning & Training Services
>     1631 Acacia Drive, Grand Rapids, MI 49504 USA
>     616 450 8653
>
>     From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org><mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>>
>     [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuildingorg
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuildingorg>] On Behalf Of
>     Jeremiah Crossett
>     Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:07 PM
>     To: Rosenberg, Michael I
>     Cc: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org><mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>>
>     Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>
>     Bentley havacomp AECOSIM does for one..
>
>
>     Jeremiah D. Crossett  | Senior Analyst  |  Phase Change Energy
>     Solutions
>     120 E. Pritchard St.  | Asheboro, NC 27203  | Mobile 503-688-8951
>     www.phasechange.com
>     <http://www.phasechange.com><http://www.phasechange.com>
>       [http://i.imgur.com/Sldxf.jpg]
>
>
>
>
>     On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Rosenberg, Michael I
>     <michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov><mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov>>> wrote:
>     I am hoping the building simulation community can help answer a
>     question for me. What software packages out there automatically
>     generate baseline models for the ASHRAE 90.1 Energy Cost Budget
>     Methodology or Appendix G? Thanks.
>
>     __________________________
>
>     Michael Rosenberg, CEM, LEED AP
>     Senior Research Scientist
>     ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT DIRECTORATE
>
>     Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
>     2032 Todd Street
>     Eugene, OR 97405
>     (541) 844-1960<tel:%28541%29%20844-1960>
>     michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov><mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov>>
>     www.pnnl.gov <http://www.pnnl.gov><http://www.pnl.gov/>
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>     Message: 7
>     Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:53:54 +0000
>     From: Nathan Kegel <nathan.kegel at iesve.com
>     <mailto:nathan.kegel at iesve.com>>
>     To: "Rosenberg, Michael I" <michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov>>,
>             "bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>"
>     <bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>>
>     Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>     Message-ID:
>            
>     <8F29443B220B3D48A035EFB2FEEB8CB430F4DF at GL-EXC-01.iesve.com
>     <mailto:8F29443B220B3D48A035EFB2FEEB8CB430F4DF at GL-EXC-01.iesve.com>>
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>     You do need to be careful about "automatic" - it's a complex thing
>     to fully automate.  There are more exceptions than rules.
>
>     IES VE has a PRM Navigator which automates baselines for both
>     90.1-2004 and 2007 following the PRM methodology (Appendix G).
>
>     The PRM Navigator does auto-generate much of the baseline - but
>     also allows the user to go in and see and "break" or edit the
>     baseline as needed for different conditions.
>
>     [Description: IES]<http://www.iesve.com/>
>
>     Nathan Kegel
>     Project Manager
>     Business Development Manager
>     Minneapolis
>
>     T:
>
>     763 276 9981
>
>     M:
>
>     415 420 9314
>
>     http://www.iesve.com<http://www.iesve.com/>
>
>
>     **Design, Simulate + Innovate with the <Virtual Environment>**
>
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>
>
>     From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>
>     [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>] On Behalf Of
>     Rosenberg, Michael I
>     Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 11:05 AM
>     To: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>
>     Subject: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>
>     I am hoping the building simulation community can help answer a
>     question for me. What software packages out there automatically
>     generate baseline models for the ASHRAE 90.1 Energy Cost Budget
>     Methodology or Appendix G? Thanks.
>
>     __________________________
>
>     Michael Rosenberg, CEM, LEED AP
>     Senior Research Scientist
>     ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT DIRECTORATE
>
>     Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
>     2032 Todd Street
>     Eugene, OR 97405
>     (541) 844-1960
>     michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov><mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov>>
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>     Message: 8
>     Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 12:06:24 -0600
>     From: "Sami, Vikram" <Vikram.Sami at perkinswill.com
>     <mailto:Vikram.Sami at perkinswill.com>>
>     To: Nathan Kegel <nathan.kegel at iesve.com
>     <mailto:nathan.kegel at iesve.com>>, "Rosenberg, Michael I"
>             <michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov>>,
>     "bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>"
>             <bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>>
>     Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>     Message-ID:
>            
>     <BF1FB99E0691894F9DCB992DF4DFDE9FEA2B6ECD at chi01exmb.perkinswill.net <mailto:BF1FB99E0691894F9DCB992DF4DFDE9FEA2B6ECD at chi01exmb.perkinswill.net>>
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>     Echoing everyone's caution for "Automatic" - I think it also
>     depends on what you are using it for. If it's for a detailed
>     compliance modeling, then I would really caution against it. If
>     it's for quick EEM explorations I am sure it's a simpler matter.
>
>
>     Vikram Sami, LEED AP BD+C
>     Sustainable Design Analyst
>     1315 Peachtree St. NE, Atlanta, GA 30309
>     t: 404-443-7462    f: 404.892.5823       e:
>     vikram.sami at perkinswill.com <mailto:vikram.sami at perkinswill.com>
>     www.perkinswill.com
>     <http://www.perkinswill.com><http://www.perkinswill.com/>
>     Perkins+Will.  Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of
>     society
>
>
>     From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>
>     [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>] On Behalf Of
>     Nathan Kegel
>     Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:54 PM
>     To: Rosenberg, Michael I; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>
>     Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>
>     You do need to be careful about "automatic" - it's a complex thing
>     to fully automate.  There are more exceptions than rules.
>
>     IES VE has a PRM Navigator which automates baselines for both
>     90.1-2004 and 2007 following the PRM methodology (Appendix G).
>
>     The PRM Navigator does auto-generate much of the baseline - but
>     also allows the user to go in and see and "break" or edit the
>     baseline as needed for different conditions.
>
>     [cid:image001.jpg at 01CE0533.EE510080]<http://www.iesve.com/>
>
>     Nathan Kegel
>     Project Manager
>     Business Development Manager
>     Minneapolis
>
>     T:
>
>     763 276 9981
>
>     M:
>
>     415 420 9314
>
>     http://www.iesve.com<http://www.iesve.com/>
>
>
>     **Design, Simulate + Innovate with the <Virtual Environment>**
>
>     Integrated Environmental Solutions Limited. Registered in Scotland
>     No. SC151456
>     Registered Office - Helix Building, West Of Scotland Science Park,
>     Glasgow G20 0SP
>
>     Email Disclaimer<http://www.iesve.com/disclaimer.html>
>
>
>
>     From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>
>     [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>] On Behalf Of
>     Rosenberg, Michael I
>     Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 11:05 AM
>     To: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>
>     Subject: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>
>     I am hoping the building simulation community can help answer a
>     question for me. What software packages out there automatically
>     generate baseline models for the ASHRAE 90.1 Energy Cost Budget
>     Methodology or Appendix G? Thanks.
>
>     __________________________
>
>     Michael Rosenberg, CEM, LEED AP
>     Senior Research Scientist
>     ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT DIRECTORATE
>
>     Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
>     2032 Todd Street
>     Eugene, OR 97405
>     (541) 844-1960
>     michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov><mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov>>
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>     Message: 9
>     Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 10:12:37 -0800
>     From: "Rosenberg, Michael I" <michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov>>
>     To: "Sami, Vikram" <Vikram.Sami at perkinswill.com
>     <mailto:Vikram.Sami at perkinswill.com>>, Nathan Kegel
>             <nathan.kegel at iesve.com <mailto:nathan.kegel at iesve.com>>,
>     "bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>"
>             <bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>>
>     Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>     Message-ID:
>            
>     <BE950B042CB6574CA6D34A6DD899EEA29F5EF07712 at EMAIL06.pnl.gov
>     <mailto:BE950B042CB6574CA6D34A6DD899EEA29F5EF07712 at EMAIL06.pnl.gov>>
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>     What I was really interested in is software that does the whole
>     process automatically. No manipulation on the part of the user at
>     all. You input a proposed building design, and following one of
>     the rulesets results are generated. Does that exist and if it
>     does, for which protocols?
>
>     __________________________
>
>     Michael Rosenberg, CEM, LEED AP
>     Senior Research Scientist
>     ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT DIRECTORATE
>
>     Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
>     2032 Todd Street
>     Eugene, OR 97405
>     (541) 844-1960
>     michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov><mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov>>
>     www.pnnl.gov <http://www.pnnl.gov><http://www.pnl.gov/>
>
>
>     From: Sami, Vikram [mailto:Vikram.Sami at perkinswill.com
>     <mailto:Vikram.Sami at perkinswill.com>]
>     Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:06 AM
>     To: Nathan Kegel; Rosenberg, Michael I;
>     bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>
>     Subject: RE: Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>
>     Echoing everyone's caution for "Automatic" - I think it also
>     depends on what you are using it for. If it's for a detailed
>     compliance modeling, then I would really caution against it. If
>     it's for quick EEM explorations I am sure it's a simpler matter.
>
>
>     Vikram Sami, LEED AP BD+C
>     Sustainable Design Analyst
>     1315 Peachtree St. NE, Atlanta, GA 30309
>     t: 404-443-7462    f: 404.892.5823       e:
>     vikram.sami at perkinswill.com
>     <mailto:vikram.sami at perkinswill.com><mailto:vikram.sami at perkinswill.com
>     <mailto:vikram.sami at perkinswill.com>> www.perkinswill.com
>     <http://www.perkinswill.com><http://www.perkinswill.com/>
>     Perkins+Will.  Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of
>     society
>
>
>     From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org><mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>>
>     [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>] On Behalf Of
>     Nathan Kegel
>     Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:54 PM
>     To: Rosenberg, Michael I; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org><mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>>
>     Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>
>     You do need to be careful about "automatic" - it's a complex thing
>     to fully automate.  There are more exceptions than rules.
>
>     IES VE has a PRM Navigator which automates baselines for both
>     90.1-2004 and 2007 following the PRM methodology (Appendix G).
>
>     The PRM Navigator does auto-generate much of the baseline - but
>     also allows the user to go in and see and "break" or edit the
>     baseline as needed for different conditions.
>
>     [cid:image001.jpg at 01CE051B.A79C0940]<http://www.iesve.com/>
>
>     Nathan Kegel
>     Project Manager
>     Business Development Manager
>     Minneapolis
>
>     T:
>
>     763 276 9981
>
>     M:
>
>     415 420 9314
>
>     http://www.iesve.com<http://www.iesve.com/>
>
>
>     **Design, Simulate + Innovate with the <Virtual Environment>**
>
>     Integrated Environmental Solutions Limited. Registered in Scotland
>     No. SC151456
>     Registered Office - Helix Building, West Of Scotland Science Park,
>     Glasgow G20 0SP
>
>     Email Disclaimer<http://www.iesvecom/disclaimer.html>
>
>
>
>     From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org><mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>>
>     [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>] On Behalf Of
>     Rosenberg, Michael I
>     Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 11:05 AM
>     To: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org><mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>>
>     Subject: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>
>     I am hoping the building simulation community can help answer a
>     question for me. What software packages out there automatically
>     generate baseline models for the ASHRAE 90.1 Energy Cost Budget
>     Methodology or Appendix G? Thanks.
>
>     __________________________
>
>     Michael Rosenberg, CEM, LEED AP
>     Senior Research Scientist
>     ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT DIRECTORATE
>
>     Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
>     2032 Todd Street
>     Eugene, OR 97405
>     (541) 844-1960
>     michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov><mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov>>
>     www.pnnl.gov <http://www.pnnl.gov><http://www.pnl.gov/>
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>     Message: 10
>     Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 18:16:43 +0000
>     From: Eric Oliver <emo at emoenergy.com <mailto:emo at emoenergy.com>>
>     To: "Rosenberg, Michael I" <michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov>>
>     Cc: "bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>"
>     <bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>>
>     Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>     Message-ID: <8E52DFA3-D411-46B0-8156-BE49D7CBF2A2 at emoenergy.com
>     <mailto:8E52DFA3-D411-46B0-8156-BE49D7CBF2A2 at emoenergy.com>>
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
>     As far as I'm aware, nothing like that exists.  Nor could it,
>     ASHRAE 90.1 is too complex to make something like that make every
>     decision automated.
>
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>     On Feb 7, 2013, at 1:12 PM, "Rosenberg, Michael I"
>     <michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov><mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov>>> wrote:
>
>     What I was really interested in is software that does the whole
>     process automatically. No manipulation on the part of the user at
>     all. You input a proposed building design, and following one of
>     the rulesets results are generated. Does that exist and if it
>     does, for which protocols?
>
>     __________________________
>
>     Michael Rosenberg, CEM, LEED AP
>     Senior Research Scientist
>     ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT DIRECTORATE
>
>     Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
>     2032 Todd Street
>     Eugene, OR 97405
>     (541) 844-1960
>     michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov><mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov>>
>     www.pnnl.gov <http://www.pnnl.gov><http://www.pnl.gov/>
>
>
>     From: Sami, Vikram [mailto:Vikram.Sami at perkinswill.com
>     <mailto:Vikram.Sami at perkinswill.com>]
>     Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:06 AM
>     To: Nathan Kegel; Rosenberg, Michael I;
>     bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org><mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>>
>     Subject: RE: Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>
>     Echoing everyone?s caution for ?Automatic? ? I think it also
>     depends on what you are using it for. If it?s for a detailed
>     compliance modeling, then I would really caution against it. If
>     it?s for quick EEM explorations I am sure it?s a simpler matter.
>
>
>     Vikram Sami, LEED AP BD+C
>     Sustainable Design Analyst
>     1315 Peachtree St. NE, Atlanta, GA 30309
>     t: 404-443-7462    f: 404.892.5823       e:
>     vikram.sami at perkinswill.com
>     <mailto:vikram.sami at perkinswill.com><mailto:vikram.sami at perkinswill.com
>     <mailto:vikram.sami at perkinswill.com>> www.perkinswill.com
>     <http://www.perkinswill.com><http://www.perkinswill.com/>
>     Perkins+Will.  Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of
>     society
>
>
>     From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org><mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>>
>     [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>] On Behalf Of
>     Nathan Kegel
>     Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:54 PM
>     To: Rosenberg, Michael I; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org><mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>>
>     Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>
>     You do need to be careful about ?automatic? ? it?s a complex thing
>     to fully automate.  There are more exceptions than rules.
>
>     IES VE has a PRM Navigator which automates baselines for both
>     90.1-2004 and 2007 following the PRM methodology (Appendix G).
>
>     The PRM Navigator does auto-generate much of the baseline ? but
>     also allows the user to go in and see and ?break? or edit the
>     baseline as needed for different conditions.
>
>     <image001.jpg><http://www.iesve.com/>
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>     Nathan Kegel
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>     Business Development Manager
>     Minneapolis
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>     From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org><mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>>
>     [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>] On Behalf Of
>     Rosenberg, Michael I
>     Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 11:05 AM
>     To: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org><mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>>
>     Subject: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>
>     I am hoping the building simulation community can help answer a
>     question for me. What software packages out there automatically
>     generate baseline models for the ASHRAE 90.1 Energy Cost Budget
>     Methodology or Appendix G? Thanks.
>
>     __________________________
>
>     Michael Rosenberg, CEM, LEED AP
>     Senior Research Scientist
>     ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT DIRECTORATE
>
>     Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
>     2032 Todd Street
>     Eugene, OR 97405
>     (541) 844-1960
>     michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
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>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov>>
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>     Message: 11
>     Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 19:22:17 +0100
>     From: Max Tillberg <max.tillberg at bengtdahlgren.se
>     <mailto:max.tillberg at bengtdahlgren.se>>
>     To: "bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>"@bdab.nu <http://bdab.nu>
>     Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>     Message-ID:
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>     <OFE3297C1D.8BCA2FB1-ONC1257B0B.00648305-C1257B0B.0064ED1B at bdab.nu
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>     I would say that the LEED plugin for IDA ICE 4.5 does a pretty
>     good job.
>     For most buildings you need very little manupilation.
>
>
>     Sincerely
>
>     Max Tillberg
>
>     Direkt tel: 031-720 26 12
>     E-post: max.tillberg at bengtdahlgren.se
>     <mailto:max.tillberg at bengtdahlgren.se>
>
>     Bengt Dahlgren G?teborg AB
>     Kroksl?tts Fabriker 52, 431 37 M?LNDAL
>     Tel: 031-720 25 00
>     www.bengtdahlgren.se <http://www.bengtdahlgren.se>
>
>     Ingenj?rskonst, helt enkelt
>
>
>
>
>     From:   Eric Oliver <emo at emoenergy.com <mailto:emo at emoenergy.com>>
>     To:     "Rosenberg, Michael I" <michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov>>,
>     Cc:     "bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>"
>     <bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>>
>     Date:   2013-02-07 19:16
>     Subject:        Re: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>     Sent by: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>
>
>
>
>     As far as I'm aware, nothing like that exists.  Nor could it,
>     ASHRAE 90.1
>     is too complex to make something like that make every decision
>     automated.
>
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>     On Feb 7, 2013, at 1:12 PM, "Rosenberg, Michael I" <
>     michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov>> wrote:
>
>     What I was really interested in is software that does the whole
>     process
>     automatically. No manipulation on the part of the user at all. You
>     input a
>     proposed building design, and following one of the rulesets
>     results are
>     generated. Does that exist and if it does, for which protocols?
>
>     __________________________
>
>     Michael Rosenberg, CEM, LEED AP
>     Senior Research Scientist
>     ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT DIRECTORATE
>
>     Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
>     2032 Todd Street
>     Eugene, OR 97405
>     (541) 844-1960
>     michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov>
>     www.pnnl.gov <http://www.pnnl.gov>
>
>
>     From: Sami, Vikram [mailto:Vikram.Sami at perkinswill.com
>     <mailto:Vikram.Sami at perkinswill.com>]
>     Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:06 AM
>     To: Nathan Kegel; Rosenberg, Michael I;
>     bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>
>     Subject: RE: Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>
>     Echoing everyone?s caution for ?Automatic? ? I think it also
>     depends on
>     what you are using it for. If it?s for a detailed compliance modeling,
>     then I would really caution against it. If it?s for quick EEM
>     explorations
>     I am sure it?s a simpler matter.
>
>
>     Vikram Sami, LEED AP BD+C
>     Sustainable Design Analyst
>     1315 Peachtree St. NE, Atlanta, GA 30309
>     t: 404-443-7462    f: 404.892.5823       e:
>     vikram.sami at perkinswill.com <mailto:vikram.sami at perkinswill.com>
>     www.perkinswill.com <http://www.perkinswill.com>
>     Perkins+Will.  Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of
>     society
>
>
>     From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org> [
>     mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>] On Behalf Of
>     Nathan Kegel
>     Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:54 PM
>     To: Rosenberg, Michael I; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>
>     Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>
>     You do need to be careful about ?automatic? ? it?s a complex thing to
>     fully automate.  There are more exceptions than rules.
>
>     IES VE has a PRM Navigator which automates baselines for both
>     90.1-2004
>     and 2007 following the PRM methodology (Appendix G).
>
>     The PRM Navigator does auto-generate much of the baseline ? but also
>     allows the user to go in and see and ?break? or edit the baseline as
>     needed for different conditions.
>
>
>     <image001.jpg>
>     Nathan Kegel
>     Project Manager
>     Business Development Manager
>     Minneapolis
>
>
>     T:
>     763 276 9981
>     M:
>     415 420 9314
>     http://www.iesve.com
>
>     **Design, Simulate + Innovate with the <Virtual Environment>**
>     Integrated Environmental Solutions Limited. Registered in Scotland No.
>     SC151456
>     Registered Office - Helix Building, West Of Scotland Science Park,
>     Glasgow
>     G20 0SP
>     Email Disclaimer
>
>
>     From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org> [
>     mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>] On Behalf Of
>     Rosenberg,
>     Michael I
>     Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 11:05 AM
>     To: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>
>     Subject: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>
>     I am hoping the building simulation community can help answer a
>     question
>     for me. What software packages out there automatically generate
>     baseline
>     models for the ASHRAE 90.1 Energy Cost Budget Methodology or
>     Appendix G?
>     Thanks.
>
>     __________________________
>
>     Michael Rosenberg, CEM, LEED AP
>     Senior Research Scientist
>     ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT DIRECTORATE
>
>     Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
>     2032 Todd Street
>     Eugene, OR 97405
>     (541) 844-1960
>     michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov>
>     www.pnnl.gov <http://www.pnnl.gov>
>
>
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>     Message: 12
>     Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 20:15:29 +0000
>     From: <Dru.Crawley at bentley.com <mailto:Dru.Crawley at bentley.com>>
>     To: <michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov>>,
>     <bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>>
>     Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>     Message-ID:
>     <0ux71qsefpm3pnkrneoadq50.1360268125548 at email.android.com
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>     Bentley's AECOSIM Energy Simulator automatically creates baseline
>     and budget buildings for Standard 90.1 2004, 2007, and 2010.
>
>
>
>
>     -------- Original message --------
>     From: "Rosenberg, Michael I" <michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov>>
>     Date:
>     To: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>
>     Subject: [Bldg-sim] Automatic Generation of Baseline Models
>
>
>     I am hoping the building simulation community can help answer a
>     question for me. What software packages out there automatically
>     generate baseline models for the ASHRAE 90.1 Energy Cost Budget
>     Methodology or Appendix G? Thanks.
>
>     __________________________
>
>     Michael Rosenberg, CEM, LEED AP
>     Senior Research Scientist
>     ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT DIRECTORATE
>
>     Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
>     2032 Todd Street
>     Eugene, OR 97405
>     (541) 844-1960
>     michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnnl.gov><mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov
>     <mailto:michael.rosenberg at pnl.gov>>
>     www.pnnl.gov <http://www.pnnl.gov><http://www.pnl.gov/>
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>
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