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[EnergyPlus_Support] Re: weather file radiation



sure I'd like to see the IWEC document. Please send it to my yahoo 
address: edhugar@xxxxxxxxx , it's supposed to receive up to 5MB

thanks 

hector

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Ing. Héctor E Huerta Garza
ITESM-Posgrado
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--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Drury.Crawley@e... wrote:
> 
> NREL is currently updating their solar model as part of creating
> a new 30-year (1971-2000) data set for the US of 230+ locations.
> We (EnergyPlus development team) are monitoring that work.  If
> it appears to solve many of the problems we've run into with solar,
> we may add solar calculation to the weather converter.  Right now
> none of the solar calculation algorithms do a good job once you're
> below the tropic lines....
> 
> If you would like a copy of the IWEC report--which describes the
> evaluation of various solar models against measured solar, let
> me know.  It's too large to send through the Yahoo_group.
> 
> Dru
> 
> 
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> hello Ned
> 
> yeah you're right, the excel program doesn't account for cloud 
cover
> corrections, something I'll have to figure out...seems like I could
> get sky clearness factors (1-10, 10 full covered), do you think I
> should aply those directly as a percentage of the global radiation(
> ed. 8/10, 9/10). or should that affect only either the duffuse or
> direct components?...
> 
> but .. yes.. that could still be a mere approximation as you well
> point out
> 
> as for the model used itself I searched and found this url
> http://www.nrel.gov/docs/legosti/old/761.pdf as referenced by the
> author of the excel file.
> 
> best regards
> 
> hector huerta
> edhugar@y...
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> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Edward Lyon"
> <eglyon@s...> wrote:
> > The problem with these calculations for energy modeling is that
> they give you a perfect clear day solar value for any time period
> you calculate.  If you had additional sky weather data for cloud
> cover, you could try to apply some cloud cover corrections.
> However, correcting the solar data with a cloud cover algorithm is
> still not as good as measured solar data, it can be as much as 50%
> off.  I know these cloud algorithms have been applied to some of 
the
> canned weather files we use that do not have direct solar
> measurements, but I have not seen the source equations yet.
> >
> > Ned Lyon
> >
> > Senior Staff Engineer
> > Simpson Gumpertz & Heger Inc.
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> > Phone:  781-907-9000
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> > >>> edhugar@y... 02/06/03 11:28AM >>>
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