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RE: [EnergyPlus_Support] Energy+.IDD
Hi Brent,
Thanks.
We are talking the same language. Yes, I think low level input
processing should be simplified or eliminated. My target audiences would
be architects, although the interface needs a lot of detailed inputs at
the moment. Hopefully the beta version would be a lot simpler.
Regards
Monjur Mourshed
-----Original Message-----
From: Griffith, Brent [mailto:brent_griffith@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: 11 September 2003 16:25
To: 'monjur@xxxxxxxxx'
Cc: Crawley, Drury
Subject: FW: [EnergyPlus_Support] Energy+.IDD
Monjour,
Nice job on the interface! I would really like to keep a dialog going
with you on both web interface and the subject of optimization.
I wonder what your target audience is for the web interface? (I had
been thinking of targeting a web interface that would automate much of
the work rather than have users work with all the low level input
objects required for EnergyPlus.)
What optimization techniques are you planning to implement?
Brent Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: Monjur M Mourshed [mailto:monjur@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:05 AM
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [EnergyPlus_Support] Energy+.IDD
1. Yes, I am talking form interface development point of view. I think
most E+ users don't actually use IDD.
2. Regarding UPPERCASE or UpperLowerCase, my feeling is that - E+ should
stick to one standard. If you allow both, interface developers have to
check for both, don't they?
3. Thanks.
On a completely different matter, I have been working on a web based
interface. It is still in development phase, so please don't expect
everything to be working.
The software runs in a server, you don't need to install anything in the
computer. Open up your browser and see how it works at:
http://civ93.ucc.ie
Currently, I have a firewall installed for security measures. I will
leave the gateway open from GMT 15.00 until 16.00 - so that interested
persons can check out browsing of the input data.
Comments are welcome.
Regards,
Monjur Mourshed
-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Lawrie [mailto:linda@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 11 September 2003 13:56
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] Energy+.IDD
At 07:21 AM 9/11/2003, Monjur M Mourshed wrote:
>Hi
>
>1. There are some condensed field properties in Energy+.idd for
the
>following objects:
>WindowGlassSpectralData
>DAYSCHEDULE:LIST
>SCHEDULE
>ZONE EQUIPMENT LIST
> >From an interface development point of view, is it not
>better to keep it as it is, I mean not to condense it.
Are you speaking as an interface developer? the IDF editor actually
reads
in the IDD and uses it in its display -- others, I think, do not use the
IDD directly.
>2. Uppercase, Lowercase:
>Some of the object names are Uppercase, while others are lowercase. To
>maintain the integrity of the data structure, is it not better to have
>all uppercase or LowerUpperCase? Is there any guideline for naming
>objects? For example, to process input data (outside E+) one has to
>convert all the string to uppercase first for comparison. Sometimes it
>wastes computing resources.
Some have spaces in the names, some do not. We have left it flexible
and
non-case-sensitive. The user does not have to know whether it is
DESIGNDAY
or designday or DesignDay to enter the design day object. We prefer
readability over "waste computing resources". Certainly when there are
no
spaces separating the "key words" of the object, it is harder to
read. Personally I find all upper case harder to read than all lower
but I
don't like all lower either. We have no set guideline for developers.
>
>3. Object SHCHEDULE may have a typo error:
>"\note Weekshedules for weeks 26-53 are condensed", is it not: 27-53?
>
Yes. and fixed for next release.
Linda
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