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RE: [EnergyPlus_Support] Energy+.IDD



Hi Drury

Thanks.

Well, it was a spin off. I am using some legacy optimisation codes,
which needs the optimisation to be run from within University Network.
But, I wanted to access optimisation module from home, so the only thing
I could do is to develop a web based interface.

Also, I wanted to keep the technology simple, eliminating the need for
upgrade or reinstallation. The concept of thin client popped in, and it
served our purpose well.

About future plans, we will certainly think of something, if it is
accepted by the community. Regarding my personal plans, I want to work
towards making "Energy Simulation" more accessible to Architects,
eliminating the need to go through all the details of input data. The
simpler, the better.

I am now working on a different set of interface, which takes off what
has been done in ArDOT and extending it to the next level.

Thanks again.

Regards,

Monjur



-----Original Message-----
From: Drury.Crawley@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Drury.Crawley@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: 11 September 2003 16:21
To: monjur@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: Brent_Griffith/DENVER/NRELEX%DOE@xxxxxxxxxx; Linda@xxxxxxxxxx;
MJWitte@xxxxxxxx; FCWinkelmann@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [EnergyPlus_Support] Energy+.IDD


Monjur,

This is very interesting.   We were thinking about
doing a simple web-based interface ourselves--looks
as if you may have beat us to it.

Is this for internal use or do you plan to make it more
widely available?

We want to promote significant advances such as
these...

Dru




 

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1. Yes, I am talking form interface development point of view. I think
most E+ users don't actually use IDD.

2. Regarding UPPERCASE or UpperLowerCase, my feeling is that - E+ should
stick to one standard. If you allow both, interface developers have to
check for both, don't they?

3. Thanks.

On a completely different matter, I have been working on a web based
interface. It is still in development phase, so please don't expect
everything to be working.

The software runs in a server, you don't need to install anything in the
computer. Open up your browser and see how it works at:

http://civ93.ucc.ie

Currently, I have a firewall installed for security measures. I will
leave the gateway open from GMT 15.00 until 16.00 - so that interested
persons can check out browsing of the input data.

Comments are welcome.

Regards,

Monjur Mourshed

-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Lawrie [mailto:linda@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 11 September 2003 13:56
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] Energy+.IDD

At 07:21 AM 9/11/2003, Monjur M Mourshed wrote:

>Hi
>
>1.      There are some condensed field properties in Energy+.idd for
the
>following objects:
>WindowGlassSpectralData
>DAYSCHEDULE:LIST
>SCHEDULE
>ZONE EQUIPMENT LIST
>             From an interface development point of view, is it not
>better to keep it as it is, I mean not to condense it.

Are you speaking as an interface developer?  the IDF editor actually
reads
in the IDD and uses it in its display -- others, I think, do not use the

IDD directly.

>2.      Uppercase, Lowercase:
>Some of the object names are Uppercase, while others are lowercase. To
>maintain the integrity of the data structure, is it not better to have
>all uppercase or LowerUpperCase? Is there any guideline for naming
>objects? For example, to process input data (outside E+) one has to
>convert all the string to uppercase first for comparison. Sometimes it
>wastes computing resources.

Some have spaces in the names, some do not.  We have left it flexible
and
non-case-sensitive.  The user does not have to know whether it is
DESIGNDAY
or designday or DesignDay to enter the design day object.  We prefer
readability over "waste computing resources".  Certainly when there are
no
spaces separating the "key words" of the object, it is harder to
read.  Personally I find all upper case harder to read than all lower
but I
don't like all lower either.  We have no set guideline for developers.

>
>3.      Object SHCHEDULE may have a typo error:
>"\note Weekshedules for weeks 26-53 are condensed", is it not: 27-53?
>

Yes.  and fixed for next release.


Linda

EnergyPlus WebSite: http://www.energyplus.gov
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