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Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: use in education
Simone:
I can also share my experiences with teaching EnergyPlus to architecture
students here at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. I use
EnergyPlus at both the undergraduate and graduate level. At the
undergraduate level, EnergyPlus is simply a tool that students use to
understand the effect of basic design decisions, alternatives, thermal
mass, annual calculations, etc. At the graduate level, I have taught
EnergyPlus to graduate students. We started out the semester teaching them
how to use the program and they were then responsible for using the program
to model their studio design projects, running various alternatives to
analyze their different design ideas. Most of these students do not have
any significant background in heat transfer or thermodynamics, but they are
able to develop at least a basic working knowledge of the program and use it.
As Linda pointed out, there is a curriculum designed to teach EnergyPlus
over an entire semester that can be customized for specific instructor needs.
Rick Strand
At 08:46 AM 2/3/2006, you wrote:
>Barry,
>
> Thanks a lot. Your answer is a really good contribution to my work. See
> if I am correct, I will teach my students how to work with Ecotect, I am
> planning on beginning simulations with very simple models to more complex
> ones. By the middle of the semester I will ask them to simulate one of
> their projects and make some improvements on it based on the simulation
> results, I believe this way they would feel more enthusiastic about the
> capabilities of the simulation tool.
>
> I would appreciate if you could send me the exercises you had on your
> class, I am wiling on learning Energy Plus as well.
>
> Thanks again,
> Simone Delbin.
>
>zorba2pi <barryaw@xxxxxxxxxxx> escreveu:
> Simone,
>
>I am currently a grad student at Oklahoma State University. Since the
>first day I started my masters here I have been using building
>simulation tools. I personally think my experience with simulation
>tools has been very helpful and gotten me to learn more about just how
>much goes into building energy calculations (before I started with all
>of these simulations, I had just had a bunch of thermodynamic classes
>and a baby heat transfer class).
>
>Here are a couple of the things I have done:
>
>We are doing work on the IEA Annex #46. This project is a very large
>energy conservation effort. We are basically trying to figure out
>what technologies would actually save a building money (we are doing a
>full economical analysis). Our part of this project is being done
>completely in EnergyPlus. We have a couple of grad students and a
>couple undergrads working on this project, all have had to learn E+
>really quick. The undergrad haven't had heat transfer yet, so they
>are probably in the same boat as your architectural students.
>
>My first semester here we had to do model development in HVACSIM+.
>HVACSIM+ was originally created by NIST but OSU has expanded it
>greatly and added a decent interface. Although HVACSIM+ can do full
>building simulations we only used it for component simulation.
>
>In a class this semester we are learning Energyplus (although a couple
>of us already know it from our research). The way my professor is
>teaching it I think is really good. The first assignment was pretty
>simple, but hard enough to make the students actually think about how
>to get something to work. Now, that everyone has a basic
>understanding of E+ he has given everyone a small project for IEA
>Annex, so that people will be forced to figure out how to change/add
>to a model, etc.
>
>My advance on teaching simulation software is this: Go over it in
>class, given people some simple base files to get started with and
>then move on to larger inputs or making them build their own model. I
>learned HVACSIM+ in a class and it was horrible, the professor really
>never tried to teach how to use or really how it worked. Then he
>excepted use to be able to use it for all of our homework and do
>development in it. He wouldn't ever really help anyone and as a
>result there were people that never got good results from running it
>and never even got the source code to compile. So I guess my main
>point here is this: If you want them to learn a simulation tool
>expect to put a ton of effort into teaching it to them. If you aren't
>willing to really help them and there is no one around that can help
>them you can expect to have horrible results (the class I learned
>HVACSIM+ in we started with 11 people, 6 dropped the class 2 of which
>left graduate program because of the class, of the 5 people left only
>two could really run and compile the program).
>
>Sorry if this is a longer response than you were looking for. If you
>would like you can e-mail me and I'll send you the assignment my
>professor used to teach Energyplus.
>
>Barry
>
>
>
>
>--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Simone Delbin"
><sdelbin@...> wrote:
> >
> > I am a master student doing my thesis on building simulation tools for
> > educational purpose, with architectural students.
> >
> > Did any of you use a building simulation tool for educational
>purpose? If
> > yes can you make any comments on your experience? I am also willing to
> > know colleges are using building simulation tools in educational
>matters.
> >
> > Thanks for you attention,
> > Sincerely,
> > Miss Simone Delbin.
> > School of Civil Engineering, Architecture and Urban Design
> > State University of Campinas
> > UNICAMP
> > (55-19)3386-0195
> >
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>Aluna de Mestrado
> Faculdade de Engenharia Civil, Arquitetura e Urbanismo
> School of Civil Engineering, Architecture and Urban Design
> State University of Campinas
> UNICAMP
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