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[EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Does EnergyPlus support daylighting through internal windows in floors?



Hi Rob,

I am keen to learn what you find out. 
Cheers
Lawrence 

--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Rob Hitchcock 
<RJHitchcock@...> wrote:
>
> Lawrence,
> 
> Sorry for the delay.  There does seem to be something puzzling 
here.  
> I'm looking into it further.
> 
> Rob
> ========
> lawrenceblount wrote:
> 
> > Hi Rob,
> >
> > Thank you for your comments.
> >
> > The issue I have is that the direct beam solar is actually passing
> > through the midfloor not where the window is placed. The window is
> > 900mm deep and placed near and along the south wall. I can clearly
> > trace the high intensity light spots from the skylights through 
the
> > opaque part of the midfloor down onto the lower floor.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Lawrence
> >
> > --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > <mailto:EnergyPlus_Support%40yahoogroups.com>, Rob Hitchcock
> > <RJHitchcock@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Lawrence,
> > >
> > > I'm not sure what you think is wrong with what you are seeing. 
If
> > I
> > > correctly understand your description below, with an internal
> > window in
> > > the floor between the upper zone with skylights and the lower 
zone,
> > you
> > > see light transmitted between the zones. Without the internal
> > window
> > > you do not see light transmitted between the zones. Isn't this
> > what you
> > > would expect?
> > >
> > > Rob
> > > ========
> > > lawrenceblount wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Mike and all,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your comments.
> > > >
> > > > I have uploaded a folder named "Midfloor window" with 3 idf 
and my
> > > > weather file. The names are hopefully self explanatory. If I 
open
> > > > the *MAP.csv files and generate a surface in Excel for 1 
January
> > at
> > > > 10am, I get light spots on the lower floor from the skylights 
when
> > > > the midfloor window is present. If I use the file without the
> > > > midfloor window (the only change), I only get the lighting 
from
> > the
> > > > lower level north window. The idf is setup to output the dxf 
file
> > > > for you to view my model.
> > > >
> > > > I really appreciate if anyone can see where I have gone wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Lawrence
> > > >
> > > > --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > <mailto:EnergyPlus_Support%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:EnergyPlus_Support%40yahoogroups.com>, "Michael J. 
Witte"
> > > > <mjwitte@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > If you want to transmit solar from one zone to another, you 
must
> > > > use a pair of
> > > > > interior windows as you suggest. This will transmit both 
beam
> > and
> > > > diffuse
> > > > > between zones, but once the solar enters the second zone it 
is
> > all
> > > > treated as
> > > > > diffuse. Search the Input Output Reference for "interior 
window"
> > > > for more
> > > > > information.
> > > > >
> > > > > The amount of solar transmitted from the attic zone to the 
zone
> > > > below should be
> > > > > proportional to the size of the interior window, and the
> > remaining
> > > > attic floor
> > > > > area should be opaque. If you are seeing something other 
than
> > > > this, please
> > > > > upload input files to the yahoo files area or send zipped to
> > > > energyplus-
> > > > > support@
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 13 Aug 2007 at 9:36, lawrenceblount wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am fairly new to EnergyPlus, although I have used 
Ecotect
> > and
> > > > Tas
> > > > > > before.
> > > > > > I have a light well that is effectively a window in the 
floor
> > of
> > > > an
> > > > > > attic space. The attic has some skylights.
> > > > > > I am finding that when I add a matching pair of windows 
to the
> > > > internal
> > > > > > ceiling and floor objects that the whole midefloor becomes
> > > > transparent
> > > > > > to direct solar. If I remove the internal windows the 
midfloor
> > > > then
> > > > > > becomes completely opaque.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like comments as to whether I am likely to be 
making
> > some
> > > > > > errors or this function is outside the capability of E+. 
The
> > > > capability
> > > > > > is available in wall elements.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > Lawrence
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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