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[EnergyPlus_Support] Re: AbsorbitionChiller



Thank you very much for your assistance...I'll correct my file and try again...I didn't now that on the supply inlet branch should hav only a pump...the others are absent-minded mistakes...
thank you very much...

goodbye

Giovanni

--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Griffith, Brent" <brent.griffith@...> wrote:
>
> I have had a look at your file posted to Helpserve. There are so many
> problems with this file I am surprised it runs at all, but not surprised
> it runs differently in V2.2. 
> 
>  
> 
> First, the geometry is inside out.  You have chosen UpperLeftCorner, and
> CounterClockWise, but then entered the surface vertex data in clockwise
> order.  Your zone loads are going to be totally wrong. 
> 
>  
> 
> One problem is that the supply side "Riscaldamento supply ingresso"
> branch has too much equipment on it.  The first branch on the supply
> side of a plant loop should have only a pump.  Yours has pump,
> waterheater, and a pipe.  You need to rearrange this loop to have just
> the pump on the supply side inlet, then the water heater with a bypass
> around it, and then boiler on a single flow branch after the water
> heater.  
> 
>  
> 
> The problem with the node temperature results after the CHP are likely
> because your bypass branch has control type "passive" when it should be
> "Bypass."
> 
>  
> 
> The branch "Motore demand WH" for the water heater's source side needs
> to have "ACTIVE" branch control so it can make flow requests.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> giovanni.matarrese
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:49 AM
> To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: AbsorbitionChiller
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> thank you for your answer,
> it's true, I'm using the V2.2 for my simulation because, as I told in a
> previous post and in a submitted ticket to the helpdesk support, the
> same file that works well in V2.2, exported in V3 and later doesn't work
> as in the V2.2 and it gives bad results!
> I noted that the absorbition chiller in V3 has generator inlet and
> outlet nodes fields, but to use the new version I first need to solve
> the problem about the microCHP model that in the V3 doesn't work well...
> can you help me about it if I send you my file in V2.2?
> 
> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:EnergyPlus_Support%40yahoogroups.com> , Richard Raustad
> <RRaustad@> wrote:
> >
> > Prior to V3.0, the absorption chiller does not use an actual loop, the
> 
> > model assumes steam and the amount of steam used is available through 
> > report variables Chiller Steam Consumption Rate and Chiller Steam 
> > Consumption. For V3.0 and later, a hot water or steam loop MAY be used
> 
> > to regenerate the absorption cycle but the use of an actual loop is 
> > optional. Note that the example file (V3.0 and later shown here)
> leaves 
> > the generator node names blank which means a steam loop is assumed. If
> 
> > you are using a version prior to V3.0, you must upgrade to the latest 
> > version in order to connect a steam or hot water loop to the
> absorption 
> > chiller. See the Input Output and Engineering Reference for more
> details.
> > 
> > Chiller:Absorption,
> > <snip>
> > , !- Generator Inlet Node Name
> > , !- Generator Outlet Node Name
> > VARIABLEFLOW; !- Chiller Flow Mode
> > 
> > 
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> > giovanni.matarrese wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > I want to integrate my plant with a microCHP with an absorbition 
> > > chiller to make air conditioning in summer.
> > > I looked at the example file"AbsorbitionChiller", but I don't 
> > > understand were the chiller takes heat for its functioning, in fanct
> 
> > > the chiller is only linked to the condenser loop and not to the 
> > > heating loop.
> > > how can I link the thermal power producted by the microchp to the 
> > > absorbition chiller?
> > > thank you.
> > >
> > > Giovanni
> > >
> > > 
> > 
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