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RE: [EnergyPlus_Support] Simple way to account for motor casing heat





I believe that Other Equipment adds (or subtracts) heat from the zone but it doesn't end up on any meter so it's not going to change Energy or Electricity.

Other Equipment can be reported:
Other Equipment
Zone,Sum,Other Equipment Radiant Heat Gain [J]
Zone,Sum,Other Equipment Convective Heat Gain [J]
Zone,Sum,Other Equipment Latent Heat Gain [J]
Zone,Sum,Other Equipment Lost Heat Gain [J]
Zone,Sum,Other Equipment Total Heat Gain [J]
Zone,Sum,Zone Other Equipment Radiant Heat Gain [J]
Zone,Sum,Zone Other Equipment Convective Heat Gain [J]
Zone,Sum,Zone Other Equipment Latent Heat Gain [J]
Zone,Sum,Zone Other Equipment Lost Heat Gain [J]
Zone,Sum,Zone Other Equipment Total Heat Gain [J]

At 04:24 PM 9/7/2010, James V Dirkes II, PE wrote:


Dear Brent,
 
I?m missing something?..
If the energy is already accounted for in, say, the pump object,
 
How can it be that adding an OtherEquipment object with 20kW doesn?t double count?
 
The Building Performance Team
James V. Dirkes II, P.E., LEED AP
1631 Acacia Drive NW
Grand Rapids, MI 49504
616 450 8653
 
From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Griffith, Brent
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 5:56 PM
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [EnergyPlus_Support] Simple way to account for motor casing heat
 
 
OtherEquipment is less hassle than ElecticEquipment, it does not consume energy that would need to be backed out to avoid double counting.
 
From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of jvd2pe
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:12 PM
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Simple way to account for motor casing heat
 
 

Dear Forum,

Life is good! Big problems are (mostly) solved, so I'm turning my attention to smaller ones.

Has anyone come up with a simple way to add motor casing heat to a zone so that the HVAC system treats it as a heating / coolning load?

For example:
* I have 200kW of pump motors in a mechanical room
* Each motor is 90% efficient
* This means that 20kW (10%) is lost from the motor to the adjoining mechanical room zone
* the entire 220kW will be accounted for by E+ in its energy calculations, but the HVAC system in the mechanical room never "sees" the 20kW and therefore cannot respond properly.

My best solution thus far is to add the 20kW into the zone as "OtherEquipment" or "ElectricEquipment", and then back it out from the electricity totals (so it won't be counted twice).

That's too much effort for a relatively small amount of energy in my opinion!

Better idea, anyone? (Thanks in advance.)




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