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[EnergyPlus_Support] Re: different results with different run periods?



Thanks, Linda and Dr. Li!

The zones are not being controlled and the difference of the operative temperatures are about 2°C. Both have no shadow calculation,which I may turn it on next time with 1 day frequence. I didn't change the warmup days and convergence, since I've no idea about them.

I think I should run a 7 days periode to get a relative accurate value for the last day.

However I would like to know, what is the initial operative temperature of a weather file simulation of a giving run periode. Could someone tell?

Thanks in advance!

Amy

--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, YuanLu Li <yli006@...> wrote:
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> This is a very frequent question on Zone mean temperature. The anual simulation starts from 23°C, i brief, as any digital calculation requires some initial values.  Therefore the first three days are the same, if they are all from Jan 1.   If the three days are from the middle of an anual simulation, the short  three day one would not be the same.  I usually run six or more days and compare the last three days.  The DesignDay  simulation repeats  a few times (second groups of warm up times) until the begining midnight and ending midnight value are the same.  This implies that the previouday condition is the same as the current one.  Therefore,  if the building does not cool down at night, the temperature of the building would be higher in the morning. A weather file simulation would look quite different, when the day is preceded by a cloudy raining day.=====================When using operative temperature, the additional check on "shadowCalculation" would be required. In the WinterDesignDay object, the skyclearance is normally set to zero.
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>  To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> From: linda@...
> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 08:09:12 -0700
> Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] different results with different run  periods?
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> I have run an annual simulation of my e+ file for the operative
> temperatur of a zone. Then I ran with the same file with a run period
> which has only 3 days. The results of the operative temperaturs for the 3
> days of the 2 simulations are not the same. 
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> Regard,
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