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Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Conversion from E+7.1 to E+6
From: "AlessandroM" <alexmac_00@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:53:10 -0000
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Yes, I solved the issue doing something like that. Thanks

--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Richard Raustad <RRaustad@...> wrote:
>
> Why don't you just run your V7.1 model using V6 and correct the errors 
> as they pop up (save your original V7.1 model). Each error will direct 
> you to the objects that need the backwards conversion. I do have V6 on 
> my PC.
> 
> On 10/17/2012 9:43 AM, AlessandroM wrote:
> > Yep, they told me to stay with E+6 for now because they still have to solve the issue regarding E+7.1 and the cloud.
> >
> > --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Jeremiah Crossett <jcrossett@> wrote:
> >> Very good- Did they advise you to stay with V6? It may be possible to stick
> >> with E+V6 but you might wind up doing more work than if you where to just
> >> update.
> >> *
> >> *
> >> *
> >> *
> >> *Jeremiah D. Crossett  | Senior Analyst  |  Phase Change Energy Solutions*
> >> *
> >> 120 E. Pritchard St.  | Asheboro, NC 27203  | Mobile 503-688-8951
> >> www.phasechange.com
> >> *
> >>
> >> *
> >> *
> >> *
> >> *
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:42 AM, AlessandroM <alexmac_00@> wrote:
> >>
> >>> **
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm already in contact with Yi and Ivan and we`re working together on this
> >>> project.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Jeremiah Crossett <jcrossett@>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> That is not possible-
> >>>> jE+ changes values in IDF files of version and uses RVI to pull output.
> >>>> There is no actual concern for versions for jE+ or for jE+.net.. For
> >>>> instance I have been useing beta versions of E+ on older versions of jE+
> >>>> for a couple versions back.
> >>>> The main difference in jE+ and jE+.net is that jE+.net requires relative
> >>>> file paths, where jE+ can use either relative or absolute paths.
> >>>> I suggest you contact Yi or Ivan with jE+ to clear up your confusion and
> >>>> update your version of E+ and your IDF files to run the newest version as
> >>>> V6 is now quite old and buggy.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> *
> >>>> *
> >>>> *
> >>>> *
> >>>> *Jeremiah D. Crossett | Senior Analyst | Phase Change Energy Solutions*
> >>>> *
> >>>> 120 E. Pritchard St. | Asheboro, NC 27203 | Mobile 503-688-8951
> >>>> www.phasechange.com
> >>>> *
> >>>>
> >>>> *
> >>>> *
> >>>> *
> >>>> *
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:34 AM, AlessandroM <alexmac_00@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> **
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, I know jE+ works with any version of E+, but the problem is that
> >>> they
> >>>>> developed a particular version of jEplus for the cloud, and it runs
> >>> only
> >>>>> with E+6
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Jeremiah Crossett
> >>> <jcrossett@>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> jE+ works with any version of E+-- this user must not be using
> >>> jE+.net
> >>>>>> *
> >>>>>> *
> >>>>>> *
> >>>>>> *
> >>>>>> *Jeremiah D. Crossett | Senior Analyst | Phase Change Energy
> >>> Solutions*
> >>>>>> *
> >>>>>> 120 E. Pritchard St. | Asheboro, NC 27203 | Mobile 503-688-8951
> >>>>>> www.phasechange.com
> >>>>>> *
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *
> >>>>>> *
> >>>>>> *
> >>>>>> *
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Linda Lawrie <linda@> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> **
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I believe many people here are using jEPlus with V7.1 -- is that
> >>> not
> >>>>> true?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> At 08:28 AM 10/15/2012, AlessandroM wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I found the Rules7-0-0-to-7-1-0.xls file, but I also would need the
> >>>>>>> Rules6-0-0-to-7-0-0.xls file that of course should be included in
> >>> the
> >>>>> E+7
> >>>>>>> version. Is it still possible to download this version of E+? Or
> >>> could
> >>>>>>> someone please send me the excel file? Thank you in advance.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ps: I am sure the new version is much more performative but
> >>>>> unfortunately,
> >>>>>>> at the moment, we can only use the V6.0
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Edwin Lee <leeed2001@>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> In my Linux install of v7.1, the rules files are at:
> >>>>>>>> .../EnergyPlus-7-1-0/BaseDocs/Rules7-0-0-to-7-1-0.xls
> >>>>>>>> .../EnergyPlus-7-1-0/BaseDocs/Rules6-0-0-to-7-0-0.xls
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Windows installs, I think they are in the main directory:
> >>>>>>>> ...\EnergyPlus-7-1-0\Rules7-0-0-to-7-1-0.xls
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Good luck! I'll reiterate the fact that many advances have been
> >>> made
> >>>>> in
> >>>>>>>> the program in terms of usability, robustness, and speed, since
> >>> v6,
> >>>>> so I
> >>>>>>>> hope you end up getting everything converted up.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Edwin
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:11 AM, AlessandroM <alexmac_00@>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> **
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sorry, I was probably not very clear. Anyway yes, our issue
> >>> seems
> >>>>> to be
> >>>>>>>>> related to the connection between jEplus and the cloud. Ok,
> >>> I´ll
> >>>>> try to
> >>>>>>>>> have a look of the transition rules reading through the forum.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Edwin Lee
> >>> <leeed2001@>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> I believe someone else already replied regarding the
> >>> transition
> >>>>> rules
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>> are distributed with each version of E+, for the purpose of
> >>>>> allowing
> >>>>>>>>>> interface developers to understand the new syntax changes.
> >>> You
> >>>>> would
> >>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>> to work backwards through these rules and first change from
> >>> v7.1
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>> v7.0,
> >>>>>>>>>> then from v7.0 to v6.0.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I think my confusion was that you were saying that "the cloud
> >>>>> cannot
> >>>>>>>>>> support...", but to us, E+ is simply another executable. I
> >>>>>>> understand now
> >>>>>>>>>> that you mean it is the version of jEplus that cannot
> >>> support it.
> >>>>>>>>>> Edwin
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:55 AM, AlessandroM <alexmac_00@>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> **
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> with "cloud" I mean the Barcelona Supercomputing Center BSC
> >>>>> Venus-C
> >>>>>>>>>>> cluster. We should run a large parametric simulation using
> >>>>> jEplus
> >>>>>>> (a
> >>>>>>>>>>> parametric shell for E+). A dedicate version of jEplus
> >>> (based
> >>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>> E+V6.0)
> >>>>>>>>>>> was created in order to merge the BSC cluster settings. The
> >>>>>>> research
> >>>>>>>>> group
> >>>>>>>>>>> involved in this part of the project is now working on
> >>>>> upgrading
> >>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>> dedicate version of jEplus according to E+7.1 but it will
> >>> take
> >>>>>>> time.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Can you explain me a bit better how I can downgrade the
> >>>>> objects?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Edwin Lee
> >>>>> <leeed2001@>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean by "the cloud", and "the cloud cannot
> >>>>> support E+
> >>>>>>>>> 7.1"?
> >>>>>>>>>>> If
> >>>>>>>>>>>> you want to downgrade, you'll have to either manually
> >>>>> downgrade
> >>>>>>> all
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> objects, or write your own parser to follow the
> >>> translation
> >>>>>>> rules in
> >>>>>>>>>>>> reverse.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 3:29 AM, AlessandroM <alexmac_00@
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Phil,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at the moment the cloud cannot support E+7.1. We are
> >>>>> working
> >>>>>>>>> (research
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> project) on cloud computing for building parametric
> >>>>> simulations
> >>>>>>>>> and the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> developers of the cloud are trying to solve this issue.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand we should submit a paper in one month
> >>>>> and for
> >>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> reason we don't have much time.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think there is a way to translate an idf from
> >>> 7.1
> >>>>> to 6?
> >>>>>>>>> Thank
> >>>>>>>>>>> you,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Alessandro
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Philip
> >>> Haves
> >>>>>>> <phaves@>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm curious to know why the cloud resource you are
> >>> using
> >>>>>>> can't
> >>>>>>>>>>> upgrade
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the current version.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/12/2012 5:33 AM, AlessandroM wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that the tool allow you only to convert
> >>> from
> >>>>> older
> >>>>>>>>> version
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest, but not the opposite..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < mailto:EnergyPlus_Support%40yahoogroups.com<
> >>>>> EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dru Crawley
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dbcrawley@> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get the tool for transitioning multiple versions
> >>> --
> >>>>> got
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> helpdesk:
> >>>>> http://energyplus.helpserve.com/Knowledgebase/List/Index/47/downloads
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look under the 'Converting older version files'
> >>> for
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> appropriate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloads.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:18 AM, AlessandroM
> >>>>> <alexmac_00@
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you know if it is possible to convert an
> >>> E+7.1
> >>>>> file
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> an
> >>>>>>>>>>> E+6
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file??
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alessandro
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Edwin Lee
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Doctoral Candidate, Oklahoma State University
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ASHRAE Student Member, *Former* ASHRAE OSU Student Branch
> >>>>>>> President
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Office: ATRC 303: 405-744-3727
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Edwin Lee
> >>>>>>>>>> Doctoral Candidate, Oklahoma State University
> >>>>>>>>>> ASHRAE Student Member, *Former* ASHRAE OSU Student Branch
> >>>>> President
> >>>>>>>>>> Office: ATRC 303: 405-744-3727
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Edwin Lee
> >>>>>>>> Doctoral Candidate, Oklahoma State University
> >>>>>>>> ASHRAE Student Member, *Former* ASHRAE OSU Student Branch
> >>> President
> >>>>>>>> Office: ATRC 303: 405-744-3727
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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