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Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Conversion from E+7.1 to E+6

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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:14:59 -0400
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Why don't you just run your V7.1 model using V6 and correct the errors 
as they pop up (save your original V7.1 model). Each error will direct 
you to the objects that need the backwards conversion. I do have V6 on 
my PC.

On 10/17/2012 9:43 AM, AlessandroM wrote:
> Yep, they told me to stay with E+6 for now because they still have to solve the issue regarding E+7.1 and the cloud.
>
> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Jeremiah Crossett <jcrossett@...> wrote:
>> Very good- Did they advise you to stay with V6? It may be possible to stick
>> with E+V6 but you might wind up doing more work than if you where to just
>> update.
>> *
>> *
>> *
>> *
>> *Jeremiah D. Crossett  | Senior Analyst  |  Phase Change Energy Solutions*
>> *
>> 120 E. Pritchard St.  | Asheboro, NC 27203  | Mobile 503-688-8951
>> www.phasechange.com
>> *
>>
>> *
>> *
>> *
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:42 AM, AlessandroM <alexmac_00@...> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm already in contact with Yi and Ivan and we`re working together on this
>>> project.
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Jeremiah Crossett <jcrossett@>
>>> wrote:
>>>> That is not possible-
>>>> jE+ changes values in IDF files of version and uses RVI to pull output.
>>>> There is no actual concern for versions for jE+ or for jE+.net.. For
>>>> instance I have been useing beta versions of E+ on older versions of jE+
>>>> for a couple versions back.
>>>> The main difference in jE+ and jE+.net is that jE+.net requires relative
>>>> file paths, where jE+ can use either relative or absolute paths.
>>>> I suggest you contact Yi or Ivan with jE+ to clear up your confusion and
>>>> update your version of E+ and your IDF files to run the newest version as
>>>> V6 is now quite old and buggy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *Jeremiah D. Crossett | Senior Analyst | Phase Change Energy Solutions*
>>>> *
>>>> 120 E. Pritchard St. | Asheboro, NC 27203 | Mobile 503-688-8951
>>>> www.phasechange.com
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:34 AM, AlessandroM <alexmac_00@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> **
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I know jE+ works with any version of E+, but the problem is that
>>> they
>>>>> developed a particular version of jEplus for the cloud, and it runs
>>> only
>>>>> with E+6
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Jeremiah Crossett
>>> <jcrossett@>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> jE+ works with any version of E+-- this user must not be using
>>> jE+.net
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *Jeremiah D. Crossett | Senior Analyst | Phase Change Energy
>>> Solutions*
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> 120 E. Pritchard St. | Asheboro, NC 27203 | Mobile 503-688-8951
>>>>>> www.phasechange.com
>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Linda Lawrie <linda@> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe many people here are using jEPlus with V7.1 -- is that
>>> not
>>>>> true?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At 08:28 AM 10/15/2012, AlessandroM wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I found the Rules7-0-0-to-7-1-0.xls file, but I also would need the
>>>>>>> Rules6-0-0-to-7-0-0.xls file that of course should be included in
>>> the
>>>>> E+7
>>>>>>> version. Is it still possible to download this version of E+? Or
>>> could
>>>>>>> someone please send me the excel file? Thank you in advance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ps: I am sure the new version is much more performative but
>>>>> unfortunately,
>>>>>>> at the moment, we can only use the V6.0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Edwin Lee <leeed2001@>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> In my Linux install of v7.1, the rules files are at:
>>>>>>>> .../EnergyPlus-7-1-0/BaseDocs/Rules7-0-0-to-7-1-0.xls
>>>>>>>> .../EnergyPlus-7-1-0/BaseDocs/Rules6-0-0-to-7-0-0.xls
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Windows installs, I think they are in the main directory:
>>>>>>>> ...\EnergyPlus-7-1-0\Rules7-0-0-to-7-1-0.xls
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good luck! I'll reiterate the fact that many advances have been
>>> made
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the program in terms of usability, robustness, and speed, since
>>> v6,
>>>>> so I
>>>>>>>> hope you end up getting everything converted up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Edwin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:11 AM, AlessandroM <alexmac_00@>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I was probably not very clear. Anyway yes, our issue
>>> seems
>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>> related to the connection between jEplus and the cloud. Ok,
>>> I´ll
>>>>> try to
>>>>>>>>> have a look of the transition rules reading through the forum.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Edwin Lee
>>> <leeed2001@>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I believe someone else already replied regarding the
>>> transition
>>>>> rules
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> are distributed with each version of E+, for the purpose of
>>>>> allowing
>>>>>>>>>> interface developers to understand the new syntax changes.
>>> You
>>>>> would
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> to work backwards through these rules and first change from
>>> v7.1
>>>>> to
>>>>>>> v7.0,
>>>>>>>>>> then from v7.0 to v6.0.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think my confusion was that you were saying that "the cloud
>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>>>> support...", but to us, E+ is simply another executable. I
>>>>>>> understand now
>>>>>>>>>> that you mean it is the version of jEplus that cannot
>>> support it.
>>>>>>>>>> Edwin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:55 AM, AlessandroM <alexmac_00@>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> with "cloud" I mean the Barcelona Supercomputing Center BSC
>>>>> Venus-C
>>>>>>>>>>> cluster. We should run a large parametric simulation using
>>>>> jEplus
>>>>>>> (a
>>>>>>>>>>> parametric shell for E+). A dedicate version of jEplus
>>> (based
>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> E+V6.0)
>>>>>>>>>>> was created in order to merge the BSC cluster settings. The
>>>>>>> research
>>>>>>>>> group
>>>>>>>>>>> involved in this part of the project is now working on
>>>>> upgrading
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> dedicate version of jEplus according to E+7.1 but it will
>>> take
>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you explain me a bit better how I can downgrade the
>>>>> objects?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Edwin Lee
>>>>> <leeed2001@>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean by "the cloud", and "the cloud cannot
>>>>> support E+
>>>>>>>>> 7.1"?
>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>>> you want to downgrade, you'll have to either manually
>>>>> downgrade
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> objects, or write your own parser to follow the
>>> translation
>>>>>>> rules in
>>>>>>>>>>>> reverse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 3:29 AM, AlessandroM <alexmac_00@
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Phil,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the moment the cloud cannot support E+7.1. We are
>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>> (research
>>>>>>>>>>>>> project) on cloud computing for building parametric
>>>>> simulations
>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> developers of the cloud are trying to solve this issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand we should submit a paper in one month
>>>>> and for
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason we don't have much time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think there is a way to translate an idf from
>>> 7.1
>>>>> to 6?
>>>>>>>>> Thank
>>>>>>>>>>> you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alessandro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Philip
>>> Haves
>>>>>>> <phaves@>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm curious to know why the cloud resource you are
>>> using
>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>> upgrade
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the current version.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/12/2012 5:33 AM, AlessandroM wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that the tool allow you only to convert
>>> from
>>>>> older
>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest, but not the opposite..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < mailto:EnergyPlus_Support%40yahoogroups.com<
>>>>> EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>,
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dru Crawley
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dbcrawley@> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get the tool for transitioning multiple versions
>>> --
>>>>> got
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> helpdesk:
>>>>> http://energyplus.helpserve.com/Knowledgebase/List/Index/47/downloads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look under the 'Converting older version files'
>>> for
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloads.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:18 AM, AlessandroM
>>>>> <alexmac_00@
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you know if it is possible to convert an
>>> E+7.1
>>>>> file
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>> E+6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alessandro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Edwin Lee
>>>>>>>>>>>> Doctoral Candidate, Oklahoma State University
>>>>>>>>>>>> ASHRAE Student Member, *Former* ASHRAE OSU Student Branch
>>>>>>> President
>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: ATRC 303: 405-744-3727
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Edwin Lee
>>>>>>>>>> Doctoral Candidate, Oklahoma State University
>>>>>>>>>> ASHRAE Student Member, *Former* ASHRAE OSU Student Branch
>>>>> President
>>>>>>>>>> Office: ATRC 303: 405-744-3727
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Edwin Lee
>>>>>>>> Doctoral Candidate, Oklahoma State University
>>>>>>>> ASHRAE Student Member, *Former* ASHRAE OSU Student Branch
>>> President
>>>>>>>> Office: ATRC 303: 405-744-3727
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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