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RE: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Internal Gains - High Consumption Equipment - Simulate





I think the problem is that you are not conditioning that zone and the high internal heat is causing a surface temperature to become incorrect.  It does not make sense that the surface temperature is too low, but perhaps if you condition the zone, the problem will be resolved?

 

James V Dirkes II, PE, BEMP, LEED AP
www.buildingperformanceteam.com
Energy Analysis, Commissioning & Training Services
1631 Acacia Drive, Grand Rapids, MI 49504 USA
616 450 8653

 

From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of phidalgosandoval
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:33 AM
To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Internal Gains - High Consumption Equipment - Simulate

 

 

Ok, Jim,

thanks for the extremely fast reply, more information is added here:

** Severe ** Temperature (low) out of bounds [-518.20] for zone="8PAV:ESTERILIZACAORAPIDA", for surface="8PAV:ESTERILIZACAORAPIDA_PARTITION_5_0_11363"

** ~~~ ** During Warmup & Sizing, Environment=SUMMER DESIGN DAY IN SAO PAULO, at Simulation time=01/15 20:00 - 20:01

** ~~~ ** Zone="8PAV:ESTERILIZACAORAPIDA", Diagnostic Details:
** ~~~ ** ...Internal Heat Gain [4006.000] W/m2
** ~~~ ** ...Infiltration/Ventilation [4.447E-003] m3/s
** ~~~ ** ...Mixing/Cross Mixing [0.000] m3/s
** ~~~ ** ...Zone is not part of HVAC controlled system.

** Fatal ** CalcHeatBalanceInsideSurf: Program terminates due to preceding conditions.

...Summary of Errors that led to program termination:

..... Reference severe error count=1

..... Last severe error=Temperature (low) out of bounds [-518.20] for zone="8PAV:ESTERILIZACAORAPIDA", for surface="8PAV:ESTERILIZACAORAPIDA_PARTITION_5_0_11363"

************* Warning: Node connection errors not checked - most system input has not been read (see previous warning).

************* Fatal error -- final processing. Program exited before simulations began. See previous error messages.

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Is the "6" of the 4006 W/m2 maybe the problem? should I indicate 3999 W/m2 for example?

Any detective hunch?

thanks.

PH

--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Jim Dirkes <jim@...> wrote:
>
> Pablo,
> I don't think you have provided enough information.
> What error is caused at 4000 w/m2?
> There should be no problem caused by the value 2000 or 4000, so I think the problem is something else.
>
> James V Dirkes II, PE, BEMP, LEED AP
> www.buildingperformanceteam.com<http://www.buildingperformanceteam.com/>
> Energy Analysis, Commissioning & Training Services
> 1631 Acacia Drive, Grand Rapids, MI 49504 USA
> 616 450 8653
>
> From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of phidalgosandoval
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:26 AM
> To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Internal Gains - High Consumption Equipment - Simulate
>
>
>
> Dear all
>
> For a high consumption equipment we have 4000 w/m2 and Eplus does not simulate because of the high internal gains, but inputting 2000 w/m2 simulate with no problem (both cases with 20°C as cooling setpoint).
>
> Does anyone knows how to simulate properly in this case?
>
> Any comments are welcome,
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Pablo
>



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