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[EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Zone Temperature Peaks too Early

OK, this is great.  I now have a few things to try.  Thanks everyone for your suggestions.

Jeff

--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Griffith, Brent" <brent.griffith@...> wrote:
>
> An easy thing to try is to increase the sensible thermal capacitance of the zone's air using the ZoneCapacitanceMultiplier:ResearchSpecial object.
> 
> From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of jeffreylauck
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 4:02 PM
> To: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Zone Temperature Peaks too Early
> 
> 
> 
> Jean,
> 
> Thanks for your response. I suppose it's possible that internal surfaces are slowing convection heat transfer in the actual house, but there's not a lot of furniture in the space. A small couch, a chair, and a table are about it.
> 
> The only way I can think of to test this theory is to increase the roughness of the internal surfaces in the zone. Do you have any other suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jeff
> 
> --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:EnergyPlus_Support%40yahoogroups.com>, "Jean marais" <jeannieboef@<mailto:jeannieboef@>> wrote:
> >
> > Could it be that the actual convection from surfaces is different or more or less than those modelled thereby transfering heat from surfaces to air faster or slower. Are there more internal surfaces like furniture which could contribute the these effects?
> >
> > Jean
> >
> > --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:EnergyPlus_Support%40yahoogroups.com>, "jeffreylauck" <JeffLauck@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > First off, thanks for a great community. I've learned a lot from searching through the message archives over the past few months.
> > >
> > > I have a model of a Passive House that I am trying to validate using measured data from the actual house. I've created an hourly schedule file for the lights, electric equipment, window usage, blind usage, and hot water consumption based on sub-hourly data collected at the site. I'm using a custom weather file from the roof-top weather station that monitors dry bulb temp, relative humidity, wind speed and direction, and global horizontal solar radiation. The diffuse radiation component was estimated using the Erbs model prior to importing the data into the weather utility. Currently I'm only looking at the summer of 2012.
> > >
> > > The problem I'm having is that the peak temperatures in the model occur 2-4 hours before the measured data (2-3 hours in July and September, 3-4 hours in August). Here's what I've determined so far:
> > >
> > > 1. It's not due to a time shift in the data. I've verified that all data is GMT-8 and that no Daylight Savings flags are included in the IDF.
> > > 2. It's not due to a lack of thermal mass. I added a bunch of internal mass as a test and the peaks were reduced but occurred at the same time as previous models. Also, I'm using CondFD with 9 nodes and a 1-minute timestep.
> > > 3. I don't think it's due to my custom weather file, as I get a similar results using TMY data.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any suggestions on where to look next? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> >
>




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