Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] E+ Lights Object: Fixture spec.

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:59 AM, dru.crawley@xxxxxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support] <EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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My apologies.Â You are correct ? two Lights objects per zone gives a fatal error.Â (It shhouldnâ??t!).

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Subject: RE: [EnergyPlus_Support] E+ Lights Object: Fixture spec.

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If you input two light objects in the same zone, this will give a fatal error.

Input just one light object, like jim said.

I think this the way.

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From: EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:13:59 -0400
Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] E+ Lights Object: Fixture spec.

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You could have aÂ separate Lights object for each fixture.Â

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But EnergyPlus aggregates all the lighting power (watts times schedule) at that time step at the zone level.Â So you can have a single Lights object that aggregates all your light fixtures.Â Or you could have aÂ Lights object for each type of lighting (with different wattages/schedules).

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For example, you could have a single Lights object for all lighting power in the zone:

Lights,

Â Â Â AllLights,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Name

Â Â Â Zone1,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Zone or ZoneList Name

Â Â Â OfficeLights,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Schedule Name

Â Â Â LightingLevel,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Design Level Calculation Method

Â Â Â ,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Lighting Level {W}

Â Â Â 0.9,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Watts per Zone Floor Area {W/m2}

Â Â Â ,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Watts per Person {W/person}

Â Â Â ,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Return Air Fraction

Â Â Â ,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Fraction Radiant

Â Â Â ,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Fraction Visible

Â Â Â 1,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Fraction Replaceable

Â Â Â ,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- End-Use Subcategory

Â Â Â No;Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Return Air Fraction Calculated from

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !-Â Â Â Â Plenum Temperature

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Or you can haveÂ two objects for each zoneÂ -- one each for desk task lights and overhead fluorescent troffers:

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Lights,

Â Â Â Desk Task Light,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Name

Â Â Â Zone1,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Zone or ZoneList Name

Â Â Â DeskLights,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Schedule Name

Â Â Â LightingLevel,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Design Level Calculation Method

Â Â Â ,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Lighting Level {W}

Â Â Â ,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Watts per Zone Floor Area {W/m2}

Â Â Â 45,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Watts per Person {W/person}

Â Â Â ,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Return Air Fraction

Â Â Â ,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Fraction Radiant

Â Â Â ,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Fraction Visible

Â Â Â 1,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Fraction Replaceable

Â Â Â TableLights,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- End-Use Subcategory

Â Â Â No;Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Return Air Fraction Calculated from

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !-Â Â Â Â Plenum Temperature

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Lights,

Â Â Â FluorescentTroffer,Â Â Â Â Â !- Name

Â Â Â Zone1,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Zone or ZoneList Name

Â Â Â OfficeLights,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Schedule Name

Â Â Â Watts/Area,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Design Level Calculation Method

Â Â Â ,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Lighting Level {W}

Â Â Â 0.8,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Watts per Zone Floor Area {W/m2}

Â Â Â ,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Watts per Person {W/person}

Â Â Â ,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Return Air Fraction

Â Â Â ,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Fraction Radiant

Â Â Â ,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Fraction Visible

Â Â Â 1,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Fraction Replaceable

Â Â Â OfficeLights,Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- End-Use Subcategory

Â Â Â No;Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !- Return Air Fraction Calculated from

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â !-Â Â Â Â Plenum Temperature

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On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Jim Dirkes jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support] <EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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I am not quite sure what you're trying to do, but E+ doesn't concern itself with lighting fixtures, just watts and usage.

For example, if you have a 4 tube 40 watts / tube fluorescent light fixture, you must use about 4 * 40 * 1.25 watts per fixture so as to include ballast energy.Â Other fixtures may not have a ballast, etc.Â E+ doesn't know or care.

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On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 3:23 PM, 'jeannieboef@xxxxxxxxx' jeannieboef@xxxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support] <EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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Not to my knowledge. You could check the Lights object fields available in your .idd file, to see if any reference an external fixture object.

Mit freundlichen GrÃ¼Ã?en- Sent from my iPhoneÂ (excuse the brevity)

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Tel. Â +49 30 6706662-23

On 28.10.2014, at 17:12, "Eric Allen Youngson eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support]" <EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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Does anyone know EnergyPlus can specify a lighting fixture object to be referenced by the Lights object?

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