Ok, my 2 cents for the rumor mill.
I used to expand my weather data for WUFI, it needs rain, by processing TMY2 files. I assigned rain rates to the flags and checked for reasonable correlations with monthly and yearly rainfall. Managed to get good enough results to use. When applying the
same to TMY3, things fell apart. A closer look showed that TMY3 files often had rain flags for some months, but not for others that could be expected to have some rain. Totally unusable for my purpose then (and now).
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I forgot to mention something that's puzzled me, i.e., the rumor that the TMY3s don't contain rain data. With the exception of very few stations (< 3%) that did not report any rainfall, the TMY3s have always contained rain or liquid precipitation data,
just that the reported values seem to be irregular and not correlate with other known sources. I'm just finishing up a brief report on this topic that I will upload in a few hours at
www.whiteboxtechnologies/download_TMY3_liqprec_rpt.htm
Joe
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On 1/16/2015 9:24 AM, Joe Huang wrote:
Jean, others,
Yes, the liquid precipitation values in the TMY3 are not randomized values from an external source, but a better processing of the same raw data, i.e., standard weather station reports, used to create the TMY3s. Therefore, they should be synchronized with
the other values, which is very important for simulations because it tends to be cool, humid, and very cloudy when it rains :-)
Although I've added a new field for PresentWeather (nota bene: this parameter is in the TMY3A.CSV but not in the EPW) that will allow you to check whether the station reports says it's raining or not (Present Weather = 60 through 68), I did not use it as a
filter in my processing, so it's still conceivable for there to be liq precip when the sun is shining or the station reports no rain.
As for extending this rain data to international stations, that's already been done in the ASHRAE IWEC2 weather files. In fact, this revision of the TMY3 relied on the technique original developed to process the IWEC2 weather files.
I had a chuckle when I saw you wrote "co-inside" instead of "coincide", because when my older brother first taught me the word "coincide" when I was 12, I thought he was saying "go inside".
Joe
Joe Huang
White Box Technologies, Inc.
346 Rheem Blvd., Suite 205A
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On 1/16/2015 2:17 AM, Jean Marais
jeannieboef@xxxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support] wrote:
Hi Joe,
That sounds awesome. The missing rain data has been a headache for a long time. Next, you can do the european locations :-).
I have one question:
Do the presipitation, i.e. rain flags, co-inside with the actual temps, humidities and cloudiness in the TMY year? It's an obvious quesion sorry, but I just want to make sure it's not going to rain when the sun is shining, if you know what I mean.
Kind regards,
Jean
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