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Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] Best way to simulate void (like in Mall or Mezzanine)



Interesting  project. I agree, CFD is a good tool. Owner to consider Option 3, one can think of specify insulation to the internal walls and roof. For wall deploy low U values, possibly, 0.35 (always low works) and ensure minimum heat gain from direct solar. Low e-glass coated may work, thats my two cents. Hope it works! Note: Please be considered about the climate, and surrounding zones of the level 5+void.
-Best regards,
Arun 
eCUBE solution, Bangalore
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On Mon, 19/1/15, 'jeannieboef@xxxxxxxxx' jeannieboef@xxxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support] <EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] Best way to simulate void (like in Mall or Mezzanine)
 To: "EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 Date: Monday, 19 January, 2015, 12:46 PM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       You have quite a static situation here.
 CFD is probably your best bet, however, if you can measure
 (or carefully guess) temperatures at different heights,
 there are some very usable roomair models to consider...they
 consider a temperature stratification within the one zone. I
 consider this approach better that splitting the zone
 vertically with clear windows and guessing at the vertical
 air exchange rates.
 Mit freundlichen
 Grüßen- Sent from my iPhone (excuse the
 brevity)
 i. A.Jean
 Maraisb.i.g. bechtoldTel.   +49 30
 6706662-23
 On 19.01.2015,
 at 05:51, "giovani_haryadi@xxxxxxxxx
 [EnergyPlus_Support]" <EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
     
       
       
       All,
 I got the
 project to evaluate air conditioning at mall. The problem is
 temperature in level 5 (getting heat directly from skylight)
 is too high (average is 27 degree of C). Owner want to know
 if we do something to skylight like adding shading or use
 film can make temperature lower to comfort level. Skylight
 is 21 meter from level 5. 
 Then my question is how the best way to
 simulate that? I consider some options :1. Modelling
 1 zone cooling for level 5 and void. But I think energyplus
 calculates average temperature for whole zone.2.
 Using zone mixing feature. The problem is how to define the
 airflow between the zone.3. Or Can we define special
 material for wall or ceiling so there is really small
 resistance for heat transfer between level 5 and void
 ?
 Please let me know what do
 you think the best way to solve the problem. I really hope
 energyplus can offer good solution because CFD is too
 expensive for owner :)
  Really appreciate for any
 help.
 
     
      
 
     
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
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