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Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] Need Clarification
Can anybody give me a detail clarification about Heat Rejection:Energy Transfer?? If the annual value of HRET is 433.24 GJ, so Heat Rejection:Energy Transfer = sum of what type of energy (boiler/chiller/fan or etc.). I have attached a documents if clarify - it will be very helpful for me. Thank you in advanced.
Example here : EnergyTransfer:HVAC (305.59) = HeatingCoils:EnergyTransfer (77.08) + CoolingCoils:EnergyTransfer (228.51)
Annual and Peak Values - Other
Annual Value [GJ] Minimum Value [W] Timestamp of Minimum Maximum Value [W] Timestamp of Maximum
EnergyTransfer:Facility 1298.31 -9207.91 05-MAY-13:00 194685.98 31-MAY-15:00
EnergyTransfer:Building 226.56 1.89 01-MAY-19:00 32606.76 16-JAN-06:00
EnergyTransfer:Zone:PRODUCTION ZONE 226.56 1.89 01-MAY-19:00 32606.76 16-JAN-06:00
Heating:EnergyTransfer 40.34 0.00 01-JAN-03:00 25046.34 13-FEB-18:00
Heating:EnergyTransfer:Zone:PRODUCTION ZONE 40.34 0.00 01-JAN-03:00 25046.34 13-FEB-18:00
Cooling:EnergyTransfer 186.23 0.00 01-JAN-01:00 32606.76 16-JAN-06:00
Cooling:EnergyTransfer:Zone:PRODUCTION ZONE 186.23 0.00 01-JAN-01:00 32606.76 16-JAN-06:00
EnergyTransfer:HVAC 305.59 -23368.38 12-MAY-15:00 69158.26 31-MAY-15:00
HeatingCoils:EnergyTransfer 77.08 -5868.12 05-FEB-14:00 26485.16 11-JAN-09:00
PlantLoopHeatingDemand:Facility 77.08 -5868.12 05-FEB-14:00 26485.16 11-JAN-09:00
PlantLoopHeatingDemand:HVAC 77.08 -5868.12 05-FEB-14:00 26485.16 11-JAN-09:00
HeatingCoils:PlantLoopHeatingDemand 77.08 -5868.12 05-FEB-14:00 26485.16 11-JAN-09:00
CoolingCoils:EnergyTransfer 228.51 -23368.38 12-MAY-15:00 69158.26 31-MAY-15:00
EnergyTransfer:Plant 766.15 0.00 05-JAN-18:00 109237.07 08-JUN-13:00
Boilers:EnergyTransfer 61.52 0.00 05-JAN-18:00 58487.24 08-JAN-09:00
Chillers:EnergyTransfer 271.39 0.00 01-JAN-01:00 47000.00 19-MAR-14:00
HeatRejection:EnergyTransfer 433.24 0.00 01-JAN-01:00 62237.07 08-JUN-13:00
Sajal Chowdhury
B.Arch.(BUET), M.Arch.(BUET), M.Eng.(HU,Japan)C.
Assistant Professor, Dept. of Architecture (Study Leave)
Chittagong University of Engineering & Technology Chittagong 4349, Bangladesh
Present Address:
Laboratory of Environmental Ergonomics
(Planning and Performances for Built Environment)
Division of Human Environmental Systems
Graduate School of Engineering
Hokkaido University, N13-W8, Kita-ku, Sapporo 060-8628, JAPAN
Mobile(P): +818096126951, E-MAIL: sajal_c@xxxxxxxxx
On Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:37 AM, Sajal Chowdhury <sajal_c@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear James,
Thank you for your feedback. Actually I need Energy Flow data or a HVAC system that means for example if I simulate Fan-coil HVAC template then from the result I need Evaporation Cooling energy, Compressor energy, Condenser energy and total energy exhaust or use by this system for cooling.
from the simulation .html file I found: Cooling coil total energy (sensible+latent), fan, pump etc. but I need to balance the energy flow of that particular HVAC system that is how much energy is needed for cooling and how much exhaust heat for that purpose. In that case I need to know from the simulation:
Which one is Evaporation Cooling Energy/Load? is that cooling coil sensible energy??
2. Which one indicates Compressor Energy/Load? is that the energy come from pump/fan??
3. Which one indicates Condenser Energy/Load? is that cooling coil latent energy??and finally
4. Which one indicates Total Exhaust Energy/cooling Load from html or another file?
Thank you and your suggestion will be great help for my clarification.
Sajal Chowdhury
B.Arch.(BUET), M.Arch.(BUET), M.Eng.(HU,Japan)C.
On Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:16 AM, "Jim Dirkes jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support]" <EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
â??Then I think I need better (more detailed) explanationâ?? of what your are trying to accomplish.
One more thought: The .html file does not show results of your Output:Meter objects. for those results, you need to open and review the yourfilenameMeter.csv file.
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Sajal Chowdhury <mailto:sajal_c@xxxxxxxxx>sajal_c@xxxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support] <<mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Really Confused....already checked Output:Meter!
Sajal Chowdhury
> B.Arch.(BUET), M.Arch.(BUET), M.Eng.(HU,Japan)C.
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> On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 8:36 PM, "Jim Dirkes <mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support]" <<mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Sajal,
Specific components of energy are not always listed in standard reports such as those in your .html file. For specific energy types, become familiar with Output:Meter and also the .mdd file, which lists the meters that are available for us in your specific model.
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:42 AM, Sajal Chowdhury <mailto:sajal_c@xxxxxxxxx>sajal_c@xxxxxxxxx [EnergyPlus_Support] <<mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Dear All,
I am confused to separate the following term from the EP simulation result.
>> According to the basic HVAC system, I need to know from the attached file:
1. Which one is Evaporation Cooling Energy/Load?
2. Which one indicates Compressor Energy/Load?
3. Which one indicates Condenser Energy/Load? and
>> 4. Which one indicates Total Exhaust Energy/Load?
>> There are many outputs and indicator but I need the basic HVAC energy calculation that indicates
Room>> Evaporation>>Compression>>Condense>> Exhaust to Outside (How much energy)??
>> Please need the clarification and simplification. Thank you.
>>
Sajal Chowdhury
>> B.Arch.(BUET), M.Arch.(BUET), M.Eng.(HU,Japan)C.
>> Assistant Professor, Dept. of Architecture (Study Leave)
>> Chittagong University of Engineering & Technology Chittagong 4349, Bangladesh
>> Present Address:
>> Laboratory of Environmental Ergonomics
>> (Planning and Performances for Built Environment)
>> Division of Human Environmental Systems
>> Graduate School of Engineering
>> Hokkaido University, N13-W8, Kita-ku, Sapporo 060-8628, JAPAN
>> Mobile(P): +818096126951, E-MAIL: <mailto:sajal_c@xxxxxxxxx>sajal_c@xxxxxxxxx
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