[Equest-users] Equest-users Digest, Vol 9, Issue 4

amanuel amanuel amanuel1us at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 9 09:20:29 PST 2008



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Today's Topics:

  1. DCV Demand Controlled Ventilation (larry.howlett)
  2. eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports (Karen Walkerman)
  3. eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports (Karen Walkerman)
  4. eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports (Karen Walkerman)
  5. Re: DCV Demand Controlled Ventilation (Karen Walkerman)
  6. Re: eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports (Brian Davis)
  7. Re: eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports (Karen Walkerman)
  8. GRN Boulder (Meagan Forney)
  9. EQuest for EPAct (Duke Graham)
  10. EPACT approved simulation software versions (Paul Riemer)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:43:30 -0600
From: "larry.howlett" <larry.howlett at htmdengineering.com>
Subject: [Equest-users] DCV Demand Controlled Ventilation
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I am trying to model Demand Controlled Ventilation.    Although I know that
reducing the ventilation when a dining room is empty will save utility
costs,  My results keep showing that this addition will cause higher
utility costs.    Am I missing something when setting up the HVAC  system?




Larry Howlett, P.E.

HTMD Engineering

815-751-3741



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:32:16 -0500
From: "Karen Walkerman" <kwalkerman at gmail.com>
Subject: [Equest-users] eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports
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Hi All,

Does anyone know how to get the eQuest Refrigeration version to output
hourly reports?  The hourly reports indicate that hourly reports should be
output, but they aren't, besides that I need them in *.csv format to be
really useful anyway, and there's no "Output Hourly Results" option under
the "File" tab.

While I have your attention: any suggestions for modeling refrigeration
systems that circulate a chilled fluid instead of a refrigerant?

Thanks for your help,

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Karen
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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:36:24 -0500
From: "Karen Walkerman" <kwalkerman at gmail.com>
Subject: [Equest-users] eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports
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ok, so figured that one out.  You open the "Hourly Data2_01.dat" file...
does anyone know how to make it pretty easily so I don't have 3 sets of
data, one on top of the other...

Thanks,

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Karen
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:42:06 -0500
From: "Karen Walkerman" <kwalkerman at gmail.com>
Subject: [Equest-users] eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports
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one more question...

why can't I get any hourly info on compressors, condensers, refrigeration
systems, refrigeration circuits, etc???  How am I going to trouble-shoot?

Thanks again,

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Karen
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:59:07 -0500
From: "Karen Walkerman" <kwalkerman at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] DCV Demand Controlled Ventilation
To: larry.howlett at htmdengineering.com
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one trick with eQuest, is that if you specify fan controls as "variable" or
"cycling", is that the fans don't supply the required ventilation air, if,
for example the space requires only 15% to condition it (and 30% ventilation
air).  If I have cycling or variable control fans, I set my fan controls to
"variable" and set the minimum supply ratio equal to my outdoor air ratio.
This then gives a pretty accurate representation of a system that cycles
fans on and off (use the right fan curve to approx cycling), or of a
variable speed system (again, appropriate fan curve), but has constant
ventilation air.

If you don't do this, what happens when you turn on the DCV, is that the
system is now required to provide ventilation air, so your building may now
be getting MORE than it was before, although this obviously won't happen in
real life.

The other (less likely) thing that could be happening, is that if you have
not updated your occupancy schedules from the wizard, is that your occupancy
schedule for this space is not appropriate for a dining room, but is
averaged with all other occupancy types.

Good luck,

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karen


On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:43 PM, larry.howlett <
larry.howlett at htmdengineering.com> wrote:

>  I am trying to model Demand Controlled Ventilation.    Although I know
> that reducing the ventilation when a dining room is empty will save utility
> costs,  My results keep showing that this addition will cause higher
> utility costs.    Am I missing something when setting up the HVAC  system?
>
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> Larry Howlett, P.E.
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:38:49 -0500
From: Brian Davis <BDavis at dwyer.com>
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports
To: Karen Walkerman <kwalkerman at gmail.com>,
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Karen,

I have found that you can, however those options do not show up at first.  When you go to create a new hourly block, select "GLOBAL"  as the variable type then use the default "CLEARNESS NUMBER" as the variable list.  These really don't matter as you will be changing them later.  Once done, go back into the block, now under viable type, there are many more options, all of which you are looking for below.

Not sure why you cannot select them from the start, but they are there.

Brian

From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Karen Walkerman
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 6:42 PM
To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Equest-users] eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports

one more question...

why can't I get any hourly info on compressors, condensers, refrigeration systems, refrigeration circuits, etc???  How am I going to trouble-shoot?

Thanks again,

--
Karen
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:47:55 -0500
From: "Karen Walkerman" <kwalkerman at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports
To: "Brian Davis" <BDavis at dwyer.com>
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Brian,

Thanks for your response.  Here's the deal, when I'm in the "Hourly Results
Selection" menu, I can select "Refrigeration Fixture" or one of the others
as a variable type, however, when I pick a specific fixture (or compressor,
or whatever), there are no variables listed for printing!  I am using
version 3.61, if that makes any difference.



Thanks again,

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Karen

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Brian Davis <BDavis at dwyer.com> wrote:

>  Karen,
>
>
>
> I have found that you can, however those options do not show up at first.
> When you go to create a new hourly block, select "GLOBAL"  as the variable
> type then use the default "CLEARNESS NUMBER" as the variable list.  These
> really don't matter as you will be changing them later.  Once done, go back
> into the block, now under viable type, there are many more options, all of
> which you are looking for below.
>
>
>
> Not sure why you cannot select them from the start, but they are there.
>
>
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Karen Walkerman
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 04, 2008 6:42 PM
> *To:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* [Equest-users] eQuest refrigeration and hourly reports
>
>
>
> one more question...
>
> why can't I get any hourly info on compressors, condensers, refrigeration
> systems, refrigeration circuits, etc???  How am I going to trouble-shoot?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> --
> Karen
>
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:56:45 -0700
From: "Meagan Forney" <mforney at grnboulder.com>
Subject: [Equest-users] GRN Boulder
To: "'Gaurav Mehta'" <gauravm at rushingco.com>,
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Hello Guarav, 

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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:22:56 -0800
From: "Duke Graham" <duke at gaiadevelopment.com>
Subject: [Equest-users] EQuest for EPAct
To: <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
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Hello,

I've seen this question posed here before, but I was wondering if there is
any new information.

Is there any progress on eQuest (and the DOE 2.2 engine) being approved for
use with the EPAct commercial building tax deductions?

Since the economic stimulus package effectively extended the incentives, I
was wondering if any "insiders" who subscribe to this list know anything.

I don't want to have to abandon eQuest for an approved program if I don't
have to.

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Duke



Gaia New 4-29-08



Duke Graham, LEEDR AP

Gaia Development LLC

4040 Del Rey Ave., Suite 12

Marina del Rey, CA 90292

p. 310.591.8172

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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:36:56 -0600
From: Paul Riemer <Paul.Riemer at dunhameng.com>
Subject: [Equest-users] EPACT approved simulation software versions
To: "bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org" <bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>,
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Based on a quick review of the following simulation software packages web sites, none of their current versions are on The List<http://www1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/qualified_software.html> under either time frame:
- Carrier HAP<http://www.commercial.carrier.com/commercial/hvac/general/0,,CLI1_DIV12_ETI11936,00.html>
- DOE-2.2<http://doe2.com/DOE2/#doe22> (not on the list period unless you count Green Building Studio)
- EnergyGauge Summit<http://securedb.fsec.ucf.edu/operation/press_display?pressid=2250>
- EnergyPlus<http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/energyplus/cfm/reg_form.cfm>
- eQUEST<http://doe2.com/equest/index.html> (not on the list period unless you count DOE-2.2 through Green Building Studio and then you are in an even bigger 'version' swamp)
- Green Building Studio<http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=11649086> (their website says yes but the list says no)
- Trane Trace 700<http://www.trane.com/Commercial/DNA/View.aspx?i=1136>

Granted there has been a recent batch of releases, but this was just so fascinating that I had to share.





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